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2002/9/29-30 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:26044 Activity:high
9/29    "We defeated the Israelis" declares member of Arafat security forces.
        http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=topnews&StoryID=1509990
        \_ Written by... Wafa Amr. Unbiased press? Hehehe...
        \_ defeat is not always military.  And this last siege HURT Isreal bad.
           It looked bad, they flat out said no to the UN, they pissed off the
           US, they helped shore up the popularity of a struggling Arafat,
           AND they didn't get what they came for.
           \_ Depends on the goal.  If the goal is to keep a weak Arafat around
              by giving him a "boost" in order to delay or stop the formation
              of a Palestinian pseudo-state, then I'd say the Palestinian
              people lost big time, even if Arafat and his thugs won a short
              reprieve from exile, jail, or death.  Either way, the thugs were
              hardly the ones who 'defeated' Israel or did anything more than
              eat the food, drink the water, and use the eletricity the
              Israelis gave them.  Not much of a siege when the siegers are
              delivering food by truck everyday to your front door, eh?
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