9/24    What about gals (straight ones)?  Are they supposed/allowed to go to
        bachelor parties?  What if these are not not sex/etc. ones?
        \_ No, they're not.  Why this insistence on breaking very simple and
           easy to understand traditions?  It is a *good* thing for a guy to
           have a chance to spend some time with his buddies before his whole
           life changes.  It is an equally good thing for the woman to do the
           same with her girlfriends.  Men to go men things.  Women go to
           same with her girlfriends.  Men go to men things.  Women go to
           women things.  The two shall not mix.  There's *tons* of mixed and
           couples only social events after marriage.
        \_ It's a bachelor party, let the bachelor decide.
        \_ Bachelor parties are vile and cruel events akin to the last
           mean given to convicts on death row. What would you like to
           eat they ask, while everyone knows that in a few short hours
           it will be "off with his head". At least on death row you
           know that in a few short hours you will be free from prison,
           in marriage there is no hope of reprieve or parole or execution,
           just a long unbearable unspeakable torture that ends only
           in death, which is longed for but never comes quickly enough.
           All men should strive to prevent the cruel subjugation of thier
           brothers.
           \_ bdg, it's you, you're back! i missed you! - bdg #47 fan
              \_ That wasn't BDG.  BDG is "D"ivorced.  The above thinks
                 marriage is til death do you part.
                 \_ HINT: Alimony. Divorce is not the end of marriage.
                    Marriage: Buy now pay FOREVER!
                    \_ FACT: There's no one getting alimony in CA anymore.
                       Child support, yes, alimony, forget it.  Get a job.
                       \_ Hi.  I know someone living in CA who is getting
                          alimony.  She got it very recently (last few years).
                          You are full of shit.  Go stick your FACTS up your
                          ASS.
                          \_ Bullshit alert.  Thank you for playing.
                             \_ Sign your name and I ll e-mail you.
                       \_ Not all of us live in CA.
                          \_ So get divorced in Kentucky next time.  This host,
                             this org, and the vast majority of the people are
                             all in CA.  Excuuuuuse me for being so unfairly
                             California-centric.  Whatever.
           \_ So you mean... stop weddings?
              \_ Stop marriages. Stop weddings. End the suffering of
                 your fellow man.
                 \_ become a professional homewrecker?  where do i sign up?
                     \_ Check the personals for people looking for "discrete"
                        relationships.
           \_ People choose to get married.  Prisoners do not choose the
              death penalty.  Your analogy sucks.
              \_ They chose it when they killed someone or often several
                 someones in cold blood.  Your typical DR inmate isn't human.
                 \_ The point is that the analogy makes the person getting
                    married seem like the hapless victim but they choose
                    to get married.
                    \_ My point is that the convict and the marriage person
                       *both* made their choices and have to live with them.
                       Prisoners choose the death penalty.  Men choose to get
                       married.  Neither is a hapless victim.