9/23 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29032
Where's a bleeding-heart liberal when you need one...
\_ fool, it's okay because Black people are doing it
\_ that's an interesting, sad story, and has popped up
in the mainstream press, i'm not even going to make
fun of you for posting news from World Net Daily.
The pathetic attempt at the beginning to link
'enviro tree huggers' in this country to the Zimbabwe
government is kind of funny though, what do they have
to do with it?
\_ PointerP to mainstream press about the wholesale slaughter of
animals (including endangered species) in Zimbabwe?
\_ Why would you make fun of him for posting from the WND? Are
you ragging on it because you think the content is false such
as "my baby is an alien" stories from the tabloids or because
it has a conservative slant which is contrary to the leftist
slant you're used to seeing from the self proclaimed mainstream?
\_ Like so: because Mugabe is taking land from the white farmers
and the whites knew it was coming, they didn't bother to plant
anything this season. Without enough food, people have gone
into the animal sanctuary areas and killed lots of animals for
food. There's no real link. She's just pointing out the tree
hugger types only whine about small local NIMBY issues and don't
say anything about mass slaughter of protected animals somewhere
else presumably because they think it's a-ok to take the white's
land and land redistribution (to your family and cronies) is a
good thing even if the consequences are starvation for everyone
and dead animals in the sanctuaries.
\_ what's wrong with whining about small local issues?
do you live on the moon? I think presuming that
"left leaning hippies" are a-ok with killing
white people over land is presumptious.
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\_ The problem is when you set aside your principles of
"justice, fairness, and hey maybe let's not starve the
entire country", in favor of some oddball ideal where
land redistribution (to your cronies and family) is more
important.
\_ I don't know about Zimbabwe's case, but land
redistribution is about justice and fairness.
\_ Taking someone's land away and giving it to someone
who doesn't know how to farm it--how is that just,
fair, or even compassionate?
\_ Why do you assume land redistribution necessarily
mean giving the land to someone who doesn't
know how to farm?
\_ How do you learn to farm except by farming?
The investment made by the current farmer in
time and learning is lost. Historically any
resource redistribution by government has been
from the people who have a resource and know
how to manage/use it to novices. Do you have
a counterexample?
\_ Ever heard of tenant farmers, who don't
own the land but are employed by or pay
rent to landlords? Sometimes, it's the
land lords who have no idea of how to farm.
You really need to study some history.
Try history of Russia, India or China.
Or closer to home, the South before the
Civil War.
\_ Land redistribution is good. No land redistribution in
South America. That's why they remain fucked up
countries forever. Land redistribution in Japan, Taiwan,
Korea, that's why they became successful countries. It
has nothing to do with white or non white. Stop playing
the race card.
\_ You have no clue what's going on in Zimbabwe. They're not
redistributing the land. They're stealing it and giving it
in whole to Mugabe's family and top 100 (or so) leading
cronies in the military and government. That's not land
redistribution in the way you mean it, my communist friend.
And I didn't play the race card. That's something people
from my part of the political spectrum don't do.
\_ That communists do land redistribution does not
mean land distribution equal communists. Get your
facts straight. Land distribution when done right
and under the right circumstances is good. Communists
kill landlords, and also they collectivize farms and
destroy market system for selling farm produce.
Those are bad. So please don't label me a communist,
thank you. I don't give a fuck what political
spectrum you are from. As far as I can see both
the right and the left play the race cards. Do you
have a habit of labelling anyone who disagrees
with your political views a communist?
\_ bullshit, if white people where doing the killing and
maiming you would want to send the military, but since it
black people, it's okay.
\_ I don't condone killing and maiming, but land
redistribution itself is good in principle. Are the
killing and maiming verified? From the reports I have
read, there are some white farmers refusing to leave
their land, and people are waiting to see if they will be
arrested.
\_ Read some newer reports. People already have been
kicked off their land, beaten, raped, etc. Yes, it
is verified. The land went to Mugabe's family and
the top ~100 cronies in his government and military.
\_ It is not land redistribution that is the problem,
it is that Mugabe is an idiot and a thug. -!OP
\_ Yes, well that's true enough.
\_ More people would be outraged if more people knew. Instead, we
are being inundated with stories like the mom who beat her kid.
\_ That's the "mainstream press" in action. Bread n circuses.
\_ Yeah. What's the big deal with parents beating kids? I was
beaten by my mom all through my childhood. Now I'm an adult and
I still think it was an effective way to discipline kids. |
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