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2002/6/27-28 [Computer/Theory] UID:25227 Activity:high
6/27    Can anyone who has used Maxyma and Mathematica/Maple comment on
        them?  I am using mathematica and find it overhyped yet inconvenient
        for the kind of symbolic manipulation I need.  I need to implement
        diverse kinds of say algebraic strctures and rules and to exert close
        control over how the the rules are applied.  That is I know how best
        to simplify but want to use the program to do the bookkeeping. Ok tnx.
        \- er do you actually have a copy of MACSYMA ... I'll buy you lunch if
           if you actually have VAXIMA running on a VAX. Mathematica used to
           be really unreliable. I havent followed discussion about it for a
           few years and mostly use it do draw pictures or do pretty simple
           things now [some factoring and computing some sums] ... I like
           Maple6 and many colelagues use matlab. --psb
           \_ Derivatives of DOE Macsyma is now GPLed, see e.g.
                http://www.ma.utexas.edu/maxima.html    and
                http://sourceforge.net/projects/maxima and on GNU.
              No I haven't tried to install. I want to have some confidence
              that it will be useful before trying that.
        \_ for symbolic math, Maple is great. matlab is only useful
           if you have the symbolic math toolbox.
           \_ what do you all mean by "symbolic math"? symbolic as opposed
              to what? does this mean like modern/abstract algebra?
              \_ for example:
                 symbolic: finding the indefinite integral (a symbolic
                   expression from another symbolic expression)
                 nonsymbolic: finding the value of a definite integral
                   (number-crunching)
        \_ Anyone know of a good open source version of a program like
           matlab or maple?
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www.ma.utexas.edu/maxima.html
It incorporates a small web browser (netmath) into the maxima display. So pages of sample calculations can be stored in web form, and the input simply edited. Computations of maxima, and plots are done locally, but the computations using some other systems are done remotely. To submit new code please follow 20 guidelines See 21 here for using the above maxima as a lisp. There is a compiled version for linux, in the 24 directory. The source is now under 25 cvs (or see 26 here and you can download various versions, including any changes. We will still put tar releases of the sources in the ftp directories.
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sourceforge.net/projects/maxima
Its abilities include symbolic integration, 3D plotting, and an ODE solver.