6/7     Has anyone ever been to Chez Panisse Restaurant and the upstairs
        cafe? Besides price, are they significantly different?
        \_ I disliked the downstairs because of its lack of choice.
           If you don't happen to like what they're serving, you're hozed.
           I've been in the cafe once and I liked that OK.  --PeterM
        \_ Mostly in tone and service. Food is about the same, and the
           difference isn't worth the price differential except on very
           special occasions (gotta try the fixe prix once.)
        \_ Went to cafe not upstairs.  Service was third rate.  Food was very
           mediocre.  Price was too high.  Tables were tiny and packed in like
           FreeDay at Disneyland.  It's all hype.
                   \- you can disagree about the food and you certainly can
                      disagree about the price-performance [i'm so-so on
                      both at CP-Cafe] but if you think the service was
                      3rd rate, you are simply an idiot. This is like
                      thinking jove is a better editor than emacs. Like emacs
                      CP has been around a long time [for a USA restaurant]
                      has evolved to the point where it really runs well.
                      On the upstairs/downstairs question, IMHO, the are
                      "philosophically aligned" but different restaurants.--psb
                      \_ when the wait staff is rude I must be an idiot for
                         thinking so?  okey dokey!  I'll go find the rude prick
                         who 'served' our table and tell him how sorry I am
                         that he was forced to wait our table.  whatever....
                         jesus christ, they hired my ex-girlfriend for their
                         wait staff and she sure as hell didn't have a good
                         "service oriented" personality.  you're clueless.
           \_ The cafe is soso, but the downstairs is amazingly good, and
              not really that expensive for what you get.
        \_ when I got a job I went there for celebration with my gf. Simply
           overrated and not worth going the second time. Then again you have
           to be a food snob to appreciate the food there.