5/22    Open season at Harvard for rape and all other sexual assaults.
        http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/05/21/harvard.sex.ap/index.html
        \_ "The peer dispute process is a choice for students to mete out
           internal punishments, ......  Students can always take a claim to
           the police,......".  I don't see why this is a bad idea to reduce
           the responsibility of the school officials who are not professional
           investigators.  They're just leaving the matters to the police who
           are better-trained for these matters.
           \_ it places stigma on the victim, and will assuredly make it
              more difficult, psychologically speaking, for victims to come
              forward.
              forward. --scotsman
           \_ Why would you want to make it even harder for some poor girl
              to protect herself from some sexual predator/rapist?
              \_ This kind of statement really irks me.  This is why the
                 GM Food crowd and the anti-globalization people can never
                 get a foothold..  They use phraseology like this that
                 insults the listener and shuts them off from wanting to
                 hear. --scotsman
                 \_ No, the anti-GM and anti-G and anti-XYZ people can never
                    get a foothold because they're all a bunch of lunatic
                    extremists living in a fantasy world.
                    \_ oh yeah..  anti-GM is so extreme...
                       \_ The people who push it are, yes.
                          \_ The arguments are solid against it.  You've talked
                             to the wrong people (illustrating my point).
                             --scotsman
              \_ Why is calling 911 harder than waiting till office hours and
                 then calling the administrative office whom doesn't even have
                 the authority to detain someone?
                 \_ Sigh... because the university can provide the sort of
                    pro-woman supportive environment that a victim of sexual
                    assault needs to feel safe before she can talk about her
                    experience and feelings.  The cops can't provide that. I'd
                    bet more than half those cops were football player rapists
                    in college.
                    \_ since when did cops start going to college?
        \_ this has nothing to do with the above, but the mexican state
           Juarez is in passed a law last year that reduced the penalty
           for rape from 5 to 1 years in cases where the woman dressed
           provacatively and appealed to a man's baser urges, but i think
           it got repealed when all the other states threatened to send
           in troops and kick some ass.  in pakistan right now there
           are women on death row for reporting they got raped, since...
           they had sexual intercourse outside of marriage (by
           being raped).  they of course say some man raped them, but
           many areas of pakistan will not accept the testimony of a woman
           unless it's backed up by four other males of upstanding
           moral character.
                    \_ She wanted it. She was asking for it.
                       \_ She asked for it so you gave it to her?  Don't you
                          know better than to give a chick what she wants?  All
                          she wants is to get pregnant and ruin your life!  Do
                          yourself a favor, trust me on this, avoid sex with
                          any woman.  She'll get pregnant, you'll get married,
                          she'll divorce you and take more than half of all
                          you've got for the rest of your miserable life!
                          \_ Yay!  It's Bitter Divorced Guy!  You tell 'em,
                             BDG!  WooHOOO!!            -BDG #1 fan!