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2002/5/15-16 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:24840 Activity:very high
5/15    Grad student demograph-- grad student, 15% Asian, 51% White
        undergrad student, 40% Asian, 30% White. What accounts for this?
http://opa.vcbf.berkeley.edu/IC/Campus.Stats/CampStats_F00/CS.F00.Table.F4.htm
http://opa.vcbf.berkeley.edu/IC/Campus.Stats/CampStats_F00/CS.F00.Table.F3.htm
        \_ Undergrads: mostly from California; California is heavily Asian.
           Grads: from all over the US (and the world); less Asian.
                \_ I thought there are 10X more mainland Chinese and Indians
                   than the whites
                   \_ more important money make than degree earn.
                   \_ overall, of course, but not in American universities
                      (and I think 10x is too high a figure)
                         \-what would be interesting is to find a particular
                         dept where the ratios change a lot. might be
                         intersting to also consider household income of
                         ug vs. grad ... this might just be telling you there
                         are more wealthy white people --psb
        \_ Most Asians went to join the dot-com swing.
        \_ More drive to get a "good job" in Asian cultures than European ones.
           More relatives questioning why you need a PhD in History than
           getting a real job.
                \_ you implying that Asians just want money?
                  \_ I saw a marked prefererence for careers perceived as
                     guaranteeing security among my asian and asian-american
                     colleagues at UC Berkeley, more often than not. There
                     were many exceptions but that was the trend. I noticed
                     this, in particular, among nikkei.
                     \_ Probably the primary reason. Financial security is
                        very important to the first generations who didn't
                        have it. Once that is reached, I'll bet the gen.
                        after that has a much more liberal education.
                  \_ Poor people often do.
                     \_ Asians make more money than whites in California.
                        \_ untrue, irrelevant
                 You are wrong _/
                 http://goldsea.com/Mediawatch/Moneymedia/moneymedia2.html
                 And very relavent to the idea that Asians are poor or not.
                 \_this article just rambles. it's junk.
                   \_ Look it up in the census data then. I am not going to
                      hold your hand for you.
                   \_ Look it up in the census data then. Do I have to do
                      *everything* for you?
                \_ Yea but what about penis size...
                   \_ Little, yellow, different, better.
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