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5/1     The Jenin "massacre" death toll = 56 (I'm going to *ASSUME* that
        this wasn't censored repeatedly)
        http://www.washtimes.com/world/20020501-5587072.htm
        \_ Of course it was censored repeatedly.  I'm still waiting for the
           hysterical British rags to make this front page news for a few
           weeks the same way they made the original false charges front page
           news.  We know the British rags are all top notch and unbiased,
           right?  They'll retract of course.  Any good papers would.
           \_ Got a URL for any of these so-called British rags?
                \_ Where've you been?  Go read the motd archives.  We've
                   discussed this at length on the motd before.
                   \_ Typical straw man arguement. The Guardian and BBC,
                      both widely quoted in the motd, have been pretty
                      balanced. They always said things like "Palestinian
                      sources claim massacre" and I defy you to show otherwise.
                      Here is a recent BBC article about it, btw:
                      http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1957000/1957862.stm
                      \_ Garbage.  It's all in the archives.  And go read your
                         own BBC link.  The non-BBC rags are screeching and
                         anything but unbiased.
        \_ 26 israeli soldiers die to kill 56 in jenin? I think the non
           military "civilians" kicked well equiped israeli soldiers
           asses in that case.
           \_ Israel could use planes and bombs like we do, but they actually
              want to protect lives on either side.
            \_ Maybe because they weren't civilians?  2:1 in man to man street
               fighting is pretty good.  The US no longer does this sort of
               combat.  We just flatten shit from 50,000 feet.  Imagine the
               outcry if Israel fought wars the way we do.
        \_ http://www.realjournalism.net/times.htm
           http://www.fair.org/extra/best-of-extra/washington-times.html
           \_ This is all FUD and noise.  The http://fair.org link is so old it talks
              about Reagan reading it everyday.  I doubt he's read anything of
              note for almost 10 years.
              \_So are you saying the moonies stopped being a cult sometime
                recently, or what?
              \_ Are you claiming that Reverend Moon did not say all that?
                \_ To both of the above: I'm saying I don't see how it matters.
                   I want to take over the world also.  So what?  Please show
                   in some way other than attacking the paper's owners that
                   the information in the link is untrue in some way.  The
                   same information is elsewhere on the net.  It must be a
                   grand moonie conspiracy, eh?
        \_ http://www.mediachannel.org/originals/revmoon.shtml
           much more about Moon's attempts to buy influence worldwide
        \_ Anyone who reads the Washington Times for anything but
           humor value is seriously wacked.
           \_ That's nice.  Do you have any evidence or alternate sources
              that this article is incorrect in any way?  Please post your
              URLs so we can judge for ourselves.  Thanks.
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Mr Holley, who is a Major in the British Territorial Army and a military adviser to Amnesty International, visited Jenin at the weekend. It is just like a building site or the aftermath of an earthquake. That is a fact, it cannot be denied, and that is a crime "The hard fact is that water and electricity were cut off to the town. You cannot stop medical services from administering to the wounded. These are facts we have at the moment that cannot be disputed and need to be investigated. But some very credible witnesses have come forward who have told stories of how they have seen executions. The UN team was going to be made up of UN civil servants, and I think you would then get a very one-sided view of what happened in Jenin.
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Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church bought itself electronic fingers. News World Communications, Moon's media company, purchased United Press International (UPI), a once venerable news wire service. UPI, which provided news for media worldwide, could offer a legitimizing platform for Moon's dogma -- if the new owners can revive the decrepit agency. MediaChannel affiliates report on the sorry state of UPI (which once had 200 bureaus worldwide) and investigate Moon's growing empire. A virulently anticommunist, self-proclaimed messiah, Reverend Moon is also a prosperous businessman who can subsidize publications around the world. From The Washington Times to newspapers in Japan, Egypt and Latin America, Moon has made skillful media manipulation a key strategy in winning adherents to his vision of god and politics. A Pathetic Decline Last year, Ken Layne would sit alone in the UPI headquarters writing stories off the TV as his bosses made oblique pronouncements of reinventing the wire service for the 21st century. But, Layne writes, UPI squandered its chance to evolve into a much-needed alternative to the Associated Press. Helen Thomas, known as the "dean of the White House press corps," interrogated eight presidents in 57 years with the company. This most recent buyout of the agency might not have made the headlines but for Thomas' resignation, a nail in the coffin of UPI's journalistic credibility. With observations from his disciples and detractors, the transcript reveals a man who has made media manipulation the linchpin in a calculated bid for power. MOON'S MEDIA 22 Unification Church Web site (in 23 languages) 23 The Washington Times 24 Insight magazine 25 The World and I 26 The Middle East Times 27 United Press International (UPI) Unification Church list of " 28 Reverend Moon's projects" 29 List of UC groups from Steve Hassan, a former UC leader.
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That's a hell of a lot of foreign influence over America, especially when you consider what a loser Bush turned out to be and what a waste SDI was. It was Reagan and Bush with bad ideas like SDI that quadrupled the national debt and now 1/4 of every tax dollar we pay is to service interest on this debt. If Moon is going to take the credit then he should take the blame as well. Moonie Myths I'm sure you've all heard this conservative myth. The credit for the reforms in the Soviet Union go to Gorbachev who realized through his own vision that they were better off with personal freedom. Reagans hard line and "Evil Empire" statements made Gorbachev's work much harder and Reagan's work, backed by the Moonies through the Washington Times could have triggered World War III. The Moonies are not your friend The Moonies are a dangerous mind control cult with millions of followers and billions of dollars. Reverend Moon is a religous nut who is trying to take over the world. Moon openly admits that he thinks he is God and he expects to be worshipped! As you read the folling excerps from Moon's web site, you will see how deeply rooted the Moonies are in the press, the Christian evangelical movement, and the Republican Party. If you're a member of the Press, a Christian, or a Republican, this should scare the Hell out of you. I deeply appreciate your taking time from your busy schedules to attend this meeting. Today, as we celebrate The Washington Times' 15th anniversary, I cannot help but feel deep emotion. Fifteen years ago, when the world was adrift on the stormy waves of the Cold War, I established The Washington Times to fulfill God's desperate desire to save this world. Since that time, I have devoted myself to raising up The Washington Times, hoping that this blessed land of America would fulfill its world-wide mission to build a Heavenly nation. Meanwhile, I waged a lonely struggle, facing enormous obstacles and scorn as I dedicated my whole heart and energy to enable The Washington Times to grow as a righteous and responsible journalistic institution. Today The Washington Times Corporation can be proud of its development into a world class global media enterprise. Since the end of the Cold War, the world began to realize that the direction taken by The Washington Times was correct. The efforts of The Times to revitalize the moral and spiritual values of the United States and the world are being recognized as absolutely urgent and necessary at this time. I want to convey my warmest appreciation to all The Washington Times staff who have worked so hard together with me to develop The Times. I would also like to express my deepest gratitude to the American and world leaders who have offered their unwavering support. We know we can be very proud of being Unification Church members, but for what? We founded a very influential newspaper, The Washington Times, Insight Magazine, and the World and I monthly magazine. Father created all of this in Danbury, not under normal circumstances. The Washington Times didn't start in Danbury but during the court battle, before Danbury. Father signed the final go-ahead on The Washington Times in the courtroom. America was trying to hurt Reverend Moon-trying to do evil to him, trying to make him perish. Without The Washington Times, America could not have lived. Which power can embrace and overcome the other-the power of hate or the power of love? It is a unique newspaper in the whole of the United States. When the satellite countries try to go against the Soviet system, they have no way to gather enough material. The newspapers here in America are liberal and rather procommunist. However, The Washington Times, paying no attention to what other newspapers said, audaciously reported the facts. 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Do you know that I was creating the Washington Times during the court case? It was on tape that the American government wanted to kill me. But God until now, has been forgiving and loving His enemies, investing and forgetting that He invested in His enemies. So that I could affect the depth of American thinking, filling it full of true love water. The Unification Church, centering on Reverend Moon, came to America to connect that victorious foundation with the American government, the presidential level. Instead, the Unification Church inherited the Christian world, combining with it into one. Father is standing upo...
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By Fred Clarkson The Washington Times, the right-wing daily that bills itself as an alternative to the Washington Post, is owned and influenced by Rev. But most journalists seem unable or unwilling to consider the political implications of this fact -- despite the role of Washington Times executives in the Koreagate scandal of the 1970s and the Iran-contra scandal today. Since its inception in 1982, the Washington Times has gained a circulation of about 100,000 and the endorsement of President Ronald Reagan, who reads it every day. Founding editor and publisher James Whelan resigned in July 1984, charging that top Unification Church (UC) officials had taken over the paper in violation of UC guarantees of independence. In 1987, Times editorial page editor William Cheshire and several staff members also resigned over UC interference. A 1978 congressional committee disclosed that 53 percent of Tong-II was owned by the Unification Church. But there is no proof that Tong-II is the sole, or even the principal, funder of the Times. New World Communications (NWC), the privately held parent company of the Washington Times and other Moon media outlets, is neither obligated under the law nor willing to disclose its financing. Three NWC executives are not only top Unification Church officials, but have also had high-ranking posts in the Korean CIA (KCIA). Sang Kook Han, a "personal assistant" to the KCIA director in the early 1960s, later served as South Korea's ambassador to Norway and Panama. In 1984, Han was installed at the Washington Times, precipitating the resignation of editor James Whelan. Currently senior vice president of New World Communications, Han is described by Whelan as the "de facto publisher" and "inspector general" of the Times. Kim Sang In, another NWC executive, was KCIA station chief in Mexico in the '70s. Pak is also president of CAUSA (Confederation of the Associations for Unity of the Societies of the Americas), the political arm of the Unification Church. CAUSA was instrumental in providing aid to the Nicaraguan contras. What are the intentions of those who own and control the Washington Times? The Koreagate probe revealed that the Moon organization functions as a highly integrated unit; James Whelan believes he was forced out of the paper because he was too independent. Opposition to constitutional democracy is a theological premise of The Divine Principle, the basic text of Unificationism. Former top UC official Steve Hassan believes that the Washington Times is a "Trojan horse" within the conservative movement.
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Long before Abu Ghraib, some in the media were encouraging the US to torture. Ali Abunimah on Sharon's plan & Jason Vest on Iraq occupation (4/23/04) Extra!