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2002/4/19-20 [Computer/Networking] UID:24489 Activity:moderate
4/18    Hey does anyone have any experience with a Force10 router?
        I am thinking about doing some work with one rather than a
        cisco 6500 ... anyone have any thoughts there?  On paper it
        looks pretty impressive. --psb
        \_ what is so impressive about it?  10gigE?  Cisco 6500,
           Extreme, and Foundry all have 10gigE linecards.  I know
           a few people working there.  They thought cisco couldn't
           deliver a 10gigE solution and would acquire them.  Too
           bad they were wrong.  Nobody will acquire them and they
           will go out of business.  The market for high end ethernet
           switching is not big enough to sustain 4-5 players. -cisco kid
           \- cisco is dropping packets causing some tcp session windows
              to resize down which is causing big hedaches on some bulk
              data xfers. seems to happen durning ACL churning. have you
              tested your routers with say 100,000 ACLs rules? we are thinking
              about extreme for soemthing else ... any thoughts there?
              and this si coming from a place that used to be close to
              100% cisco. --psb
              \_ ACL churning?  The 6500 uses TCAMs for ACLs. So do every
                 high end switch out there.  It is impossible for ACL to
                 "churn".  Either it's programmed in the HW TCAM entries or
                 it isn't.  And there's no way we can fit 100K ACEs in the
                 TCAMs.  Are you sure the packet drops aren't legitimate?
                 Something like WRED drops or you're oversuscribing? -cisco kid
              \_ Try River Stone (http://www.riverstonenetworks.com They
                 should be able to handle your needs and are about
                 90% cli compatible with IOS (several of the core
                 coders are cisco alumni). -cisco alum
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