4/2     I use kdm on FreeBSD with
ttyv8   "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon"  xterm   on   secure
        in /etc/ttys.  Sometimes, I really just want to kill the damn
        thing, and have it stay dead (eg, to upgrade kde or X or whatever).
        As it is, no matter how I kill -9 its processes, it always comes
        back.  What do I need to do?
        \_ you want to kill the X process, not kde
           \_ If I kill X, kdm restarts it.  If I kill kdm, it pops up
                again a second later.
                \_ you need to change to a different init level.  -tom
                   \_ With FreeBSD?
                      \_ FreeBSD sucks, hoser
                         \_ You prefer...?
                      \_ whoa... tom's been wrong alot lately... must be
                         global warming or something.
                        \_ it can't be global warming because there's no such
                           thing.  certainly not anything human caused.
                        \_ gee, why don't you come up with the answer then,
                           Einstein?  in /etc/ttys on FreeBSD, "on" means
                           init will respawn it.  you need to switch it to
                           "off" and then kill -HUP 1.  -tom
                           \_ thank you.
                           \_ answer: uninstall all gui crap and use the shell
                              like god intended.
                              \_ Hi, Paolo!
                                 \_ Why is every common sense comment
                                    attributed to Paolo?
                                    \_ I doubt paolo 'mr l33t zero day' gui man
                                       would ever say that.