3/30    What's up with SFO BART station? Wasn't it supposed to be open back
        in December?
        \_ it was actually supposed to open in 1998, I think.
          \_ What's up is it's a 1.5 billion-dollar boondoggle--a torturous
             solution to a non-problem.  If they'd just done the wise thing
             with an inter-modal station west of 101 hooked up to the
             monorail and CalTrain, it would have been half the cost and
             been done by now.  Thank Quentin Kopp.  -tom
                \_ Can you run more than the current 40 train schedule
                   (about every half hour) without grade separation?  If you
                   can't expand the schedule, and have to build overpasses
                   and underpasses, wouldn't you also run into the same issue?
                   \_ You mean CalTrain?  The CalTrain issue is orthogonal,
                      but you could electrify it and do grade separation for
                      the entire system for less than BART-to-SFO cost.  -tom
                \_ I'm unfamiliar with this plan.  Is this something that was
                   considered and rejected?  Is there a report somewhere that
                   says why?
                  \_ They wouldn't have had that tax revenue for the city
                     for all the hotels that they expected to be built next to
                     the BART station.  I think it was Millbrae.  --oj
                \_ Nobody wants to transfer 10 bazillion times to different
                   buses/cars/trains just to go between SF and SFO.
                   If *you* still want to do it go ahead, then *you* carry
                   your luggage in the rain before going to your meeting
                   with some COO who you hope buys your product.
                   Oh yeah, that's right you have a job that gives you
                   no sense of reality.
                   \_ You'll still have to transfer to the monorail unless
                      you're going to the international terminal.  There
                      wouldn't be any "luggage carrying in the rain" with
                      an intermodal station--have you ever been to an
                      airport with a monorail?  And BART-to-SFO means that
                      people coming from the south on CalTrain will have to
                      transfer to BART at Millbrae, and then to the monorail.
                      It's a planning disaster.  -tom
                   \_ if you have the kind of job where you're meeting with
                      COO's, take a fucking cab and expense it. tom is not the
                      one with no sense of reality - public transportation
                      should designed for the common man/woman.
                   \_ Oh my God!  And THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
                      \_ Do you believe in babies?
                         \_ Do they vote or donate to political campaigns?