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Almost six years after the landmark 1996 Welfare Reform Act, the number of individuals on welfare has declined only slightly, and in at least one state California immigrant dependence on the welfare system is again on the rise, according to immigration economist George J. Why is Gray Davis' California possibly the only state seeing an increase in immigrant-fueled welfare costs, hm? But, as important as it is, this is an issue that deserves considerable finesse. Simon needs to point out the fiscal irresponsibility and enormous cost of Davis' policies without coming off as a mean, nasty extremist. I don't even see English speaking people using food stamps or Medicaid ---every single time I see someone using a Lone Star food stamp card, they're speaking nothing but Spanish and look like they just crossed over the river. More than one-fourth of the immigrants in California are on welfare. That certainly sounds like a recipe for the inevitable bankruptcy of the state. Let's see the "open borders" people show up and defend that. The US is being invaded, and your precious Repubs are complicent. The US is being invaded, and your precious Repubs are complicent. California is literally infested with deportable illegal aliens. However, Davis, the goat humping, socialist traitor was in favor of destroying our free election too. Do you think America will be intact by the year 2020, or so? I mean, Yugoslavia broke up, the Soviet Union broke up, do you see this happening in America? At a certain demographic tipping point, it becomes impossible for a border region to control its frontier, since local governments are controlled by pro open immigration recent immigrants. This process really snowballs into an unstoppable avalanche in the later stages, which we are approaching. Once the border states become majority Mexican, the radicals will become emboldened, and push for Spanish only laws and other flagrant displays of power. The most radical will snipe "anglo" police and politicians to provoke a response, the radicals will flee into the barrios. The police response will create collateral victims, and (the radicals hope) new recruits to the radical cause. I think we could see terrorism and guerrilla war in the Southwest within 20 years. I would not buy real estate within 100 or 200 miles of the border. I hope I'm wrong, but I recall how the Kosovo Serbs used to love their "cheap Albanian labor". I always saw England as Greece, the bearer of culture to the world, and America as the Roman Empire, powerful with serious internal weaknesses. Of course, there is a Darwinian argument that could be made here. If Hispanics are more numerous and the whites are generally only interested in luxuries and not producing offspring don't the Hispanics "deserve" the Southwest? The thing to keep in mind, which folks don't seem to realize (yet), is that this type of border immigration situation really picks up speed exponentially. It will suddenly seem to grow by leaps and bounds, and before you can say "Roberto es me Tio", you are living in Amexica, with "Spanish Only" laws, etc. BABY" 138 20 posted on 03/28/2002 8:22:46 PM PST by 139 koba 140 Post Reply | 141 Private Reply | 142 To 19 | 143 View Replies To: RightOnTheLeftCoast; I wonder what percentage of Freepers won't see the problem with this statement. That's the problem with allowing illegal aliens and legal immigrants to apply for social services such as welfare. You'd think that "our" politicians would have a brain in their head. Rather, many continue to promote a racialist agenda, driving wedges between groups in El Paso. They may be unaware it is happening, but one look at the demographics during the past few years paints an unflattering picture of what has happened. Mexican Americans are in the majority and have leadership roles in the community, and yet these former student leaders continue to cite racism as a reason for the problems in El Paso. But this does not deter them, and many will keep their racialist strategies in place, as long as there is a potential benefit for them. However, they do not seem to care if the community is helped or hurt by their actions. It's pathetic the way the pro-illegal alien mafia twist logic, words, etc. Many do, and get paid under the table while collecting welfare. Despite the fact that only around 20% of El Paso's population is non-"hispanic" white. It is a fact that groups of peoples have been migrating hither and yon all over the world since the beginning of time. Heck, there is strong evidence that there were other folks in the western hemisphere before the Indians migrated here from Asia. But, it is also true that strong cultures live on to influence future generations even if it is defeated militarily and politically by a lesser culture at a given time. Example: Roman and Greek culture have a far more profound influence on political and cultural life of Europe and America than that of the Angles, Saxons, Visigoths, Ostrogoths, and other Germanic barberian tribes, even though they overthrew the Roman Empire for all practical purposes. My obsession these days is not to let my culture, which I think is superior, be overthrown by that of a bunch of barberians like the Romans were. Fact is what lead to their downfall was letting the Visigoths settle within the boundries of the empire and govern themselves when they needed refuge from Attila the Hun. If we don't do it, then maybe we do deserve to be wiped out. I'm of the persuasion that people may not wake up until it's too late. I mean, look at the people who usually post to these threads. Very few are from the northeast (minus the NY, NJ, and CT) and very few are from the midwest (minus the Chicago area). The majority of posters to these threads are from the American southwest and south (GA and NC in particular). As I see it, if the problem isn't that much of a problem, people don't pay attention to it. So they have to pack their bags again and head north or east. There's an out-migration now that resembles that of Mexico's. The more successful and educated are moving out, but the uneducated, illiterate are moving in. Jobs are leaving the area when you'd think the low labor costs would bring them in. All that is left is low-wage manual-labor jobs, and you can't build an advanced economy on that. Are there any American-like communties, cities, and or neighborhoods? After all, when you're pushing the Reconquista, you want the young Hispanics on your side, right? Why should taxpaying citiZens subsidize the cheap labor of some Republicans? Funny how they scream if a citizen loses their living and needs some help, but then turn around and hire under the table labor and feel entitled to do so. It's starting to look like Guadalajara where the majority of people are Mexican and there's a community of Americans living well enough. Thomas Aquinas Church and co-chairman of the El Paso Interreligious Sponsoring Organization, told the committee. In 1950, the average El Pasoan earned $104 for every $100 on the national scale, Hall said, and today, the typical El Paso wage has slipped to $57 for every $100 nationally. Two of every three jobs in El Paso pay less than $10 an hour, which means less than the minimum living wage, Hall said. It's imperative that the public sector lead the way and set a trend for higher wages and benefits, he said. The country's four poorest metropolitan areas are on the Texas-Mexico border. It cost the state $621,546,714 to help finance public education in El Paso's nine school districts last year. My wife and I went up to the mountains in western part of the state, and I thought I was in Mexico in some places. And I always thought those mountain folks would never let something like that happen to them. They have always had a healthy suspicion of outsiders until they prove themselves to be good people. She is an immigrant from Lebanon herself, and has been told by the INS that it will be another 6 years before she will recieve her green card. Call the Kali DMV at 1-800-777-0133 to find out why they (and all Kali state offices) will be closed this saturday and monday. An educated workforce more than low labo...
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