2/26    After getting a programmable Kinesis keyboard, a <DEAD>humanscale.com<DEAD>
        tray, installing (and getting trained) Dragon Naturally Speaking,
        I am finally back to work. All this, paid by my company. My advice
        to yall is to use your company's resource to the max  -Mr. RSI No Mo
        \_ Like the Enron employees?
           \_ No. That was the opposite situation where the company used the
              employees to the max.  How exactly in your twisted little mind
              did you decide this was in any way Enron related?
              \_ Err ... perhaps you should read about all the parties
                 the employees had, all the luxury hotels they stayed
                 in, the free vacations given, the first class plane
                 tickets, the waterford crystals they get on Secretary's
                 Day, etc.  Many of them knew the company isn't making any
                 money, yet they stayed and took advantage of all the
                 benefits.
                 Day, the $100 bills left on their desk, etc.  Many of
                 them knew the company isn't making any money, yet they
                 stayed and took advantage of all the benefits.
                 \_ yeah that really cost a lot compared to the golden
                    parachutes.
                 \_ You mean the EXECUTIVES who got all that shit?  The typical
                    employee got a paycheck and the shaft.  And if you believed
                    everything you read you'd also know that *every* 18 year
                    old within 50 miles of San Jose made $35m in the 95-99 era
                    and no one worked and everything was a big party and we all
                    owned multi million dollar houses we bought in cash and
                    oh yeah, hey wait, none of that shit was true, it was just
                   resources to the max", like Mr. RSI suggested,
                   except that, being a small fry, Mr. RSI's max
                   is much less than theirs.
                    the morons in the press over generalizing 1 or 2 incredibly
                    rare stories across 500,000 people.
           \_ How do you define "the company" and how do you define "the
              employees"?  That is the real question you are debating. I
              would argue that in the case of Enron, the people doing the
              coniving were the highest up exec's and thus "the company".
              "The employees" all lost their retirement plans and were
              screwed.
                \_ Yes, but they are simply "[using their] company's
                   resources to the max", like what Mr. RSI suggested.
                   \_ Say what?
        \_ boys and girls, the moral of the story is to abuse your company
           before it abuses you, except of course, if you're in top
           management. But usually it works the other way (Mr. fry is too
           nice to use his company's resource and Mr. CEO abuses Mr fry)
           \_ The moral of the story is that just because someone else is
              doing something wrong, doesn't mean you should also do it.
              Every criminal can use that as an excuse.  When you abuse
              Every criminal can use that as a lame excuse.  When you abuse
              your company, you are abusing your co-workers and
              investors which likely include old ladies and their
              retirement savings.
              \_ I don't think the employer paying for this person's keyboard
                 and software is an abuse of the company.  They're just taking
                 that as part of the employee's cost.  It'll come out of his
                 next raise, current salary, next bonus, or somewhere else
                 eventually (his severance if they go under).  Nothing is free.