2/22    Michelle Kwan is a perfect example of an over-ambitious Asian who
        stopped skating for the sake of fun and just fell flat on her face.
        \_ You're over reaching on the troll-o-meter.  Anyway she didn't fall
           on her face.  She fell on her ass.  You must not have seen it.
        \_ What does being an Asian have anything to do with that?
          \_ obviously, you don't have Asian parents. They push you too hard
             and make you miserable unless you become a doctor (or get a gold
             metal in some cases)               -miserable asian kid
             \_ lol, you are miserable because you are weak, and can handle
                the challenge.  You have no will to excel.  So what she fell
                on her ass, but she earned the respect from many.  You know
                what she said at the end "I didn't give up".
                \_ Yes, and I think she contributed more to the sport
                   than say, Tara Lipinski, who won gold at a young
                   age, and immediately turned pro.
                   \_ Please tell us how she 'contributed to the sport'.  By
                      doing commercials for Chrystler?
                      \_ By setting a high standard for an extensive period?
                         Take her away from this year's competition and it
                         would be much more boring.  The sport would be
                         much more boring if all the competitors are
                         happy-go-lucky 16-year olds.
                         \_ Yesterday's news, pal.  The best got the medal.
                            \_ Don't feel obliged to continue arguing if you
                               have no point to make.
                               \_ You missed the point.  There's no argument.
                                  Bronze medal winners are yesterday's news.
                                  Gold medal winners are champions.  No one
                                  likes a loser.  Get used to seeing the new
                                  girl.  Bye Michelle, now go away, loser.
                                  \_ Really?  How about Anna Kournikova?
                                     \_ Duh.  Great tits and skirt.
                                        \_ Good.  Now you are getting brighter.
             \_ medal.  Train harder.
             \_ I think Michelle wanted to skate.  Her parents worked
                several jobs so she could train.  I believe her sister
                was her inspiration.
        \_ A whole bunch of skaters on the men's side fell, and most
           were not asian.  The Russian guy who won and his Russian
           rival also seem to care a lot about winning.  It's
           good if you are skating for fun cause it makes you
           relaxed, but if winning is important, as it is for many
           of the skaters, no point pretending that it isn't.
           \_ "most were not asian".  Meaning?  Asians are more talented?
        \_ Olympic skaters do not compete for fun.  I assure you that by the
           time someone becomes competitive at the National/International
           level, any sense of fun has been ground out of them and replaced
           with a desire to win at all costs.  Skaters have learned to put on
           a happy face, and make faux-sportsmanlike/inspirational statements
           like 'I tried my best, but xxxx really deserved the gold.' when on
           camera because they know that people will fawn over how gracious
           they are for doing it.  That, and sore loser skaters have a history
           of becoming total paraiahs for expressing their disappointment.
           If you have the chance, try catching a skater's off camera reaction
           in the locker room after a bad performance.  Reality and media
           images are very different.  And yes, skaters are pretty much
           universally like this, regardless of nationality or skin color.
           -dans