1/16    How do you view grades? (your perspective on them)
        \_ Like this:
                A: opportunity to work in the industry or research.
                   More likely to go to grad school or get an MBA
                B: coding monkey
                C: sys admin
                D: QA
                F: flunk out, work in the industry and get rich. Hire a bunch
                   of people who got As, Bs, Cs, and Ds (Bill Gates).
                \_ What drugs are you on?  I want some!  QA is QA because they
                   never went to school.  Sysadmins get Bs because they take
                   classes they like but don't show up that much.  Code monkeys
                   get Cs because they take classes they hate thinking they'll
                   be the next dotcom/netscape millionaire.  Cal doesn't make
                   any MBAs.  They all went to Stanford where _everyone_ gets
                   an A.  And those who flunked out went to some JC and now
                   are assistant manager at some shoe store in the mall.
                   \_ gee, the Haas School of Business (one of the top 10
                      business schools in the country) would be surprised to
                      hear it doesn't make any MBA's.  -tom
        \_ Like this:
                A: hard worker and big time ass kisser
                B: hard worker -or- big time ass kisser
                C: hard worker but Prof/TA/grader never sees student in class
                D: hard worker but in wrong class, kissing ass to avoid F
                F: just fucked
           During my time in school I never noticed *any* correlation between
           intellect and grades.  The rest of life tends to reflect this also.
        \_ If there were no such grades as A's and B's, then my report cards
           would look pretty damn good.
        \_ If you're not planning to go to grad school, focus on passing
        \_ they give idiots a false sense of security when they get A's
           (see hkn), and they give smart people a undeserved insecurities
           (see nweaver, maybe).
                \_ nweaver is a smart person?
        \_ As a source of random bits slightly correlated with course
           performance, and even more slightly correlated with
           intelligence/clue.  --HKN member and proud (and not because of
           anything to do with grades or GPAs)
           \_ Sign your name, alexf.
              \_ Hi ilyas. That wasn't me. -alexf
           \_ what would you estimate to be the correlation coefficient?
              \_ From what I've seen in the EECS Dept, they're probably around
                 0.7 and 0.3, respectively. Of course, these are rough and
                 based on rather limited observations. Order of magnitude
                 seems about right though. -above poster
                 \_ Sign your name, alexf.
                    \_ See above.
        \_ where can one find statistics about grades for uc berkeley?
                \_ who cares. Most of the rich & infamous don't have good
                   grades-- Bill Gates, Ellison, W Bush, McNealy... the list
                   goes on and on.