1/11    Are soy products PROVEN to prevent cancer? Or is it simply speculation
        from the fact that Asians have less cases, in which case could be
        attributed to genetics or not reporting cases at all.   -soy h8r
        \_ No proof.
        \_ No proof, but a lot of evidence:
           <DEAD>www.protein.com/PTIWeb.nsf/pages/Cancer<DEAD>
        \_ Probably as much proof as eating lots of vegetables would help
           prevent some cancer.  I am not sure if asians have less cancer.
           They have less heart problems and some types of cancer (eg.
           prostate, breast), but not other types (mostly those related
           to the digestive system and tobacco).
                \_ Eating causes cancer.
                \_ Eating (green, leafy) vegetables is the simplest
                   way to avoid cancer, and there ARE studies showing
                   that.
        \_ Why would soy prevent cancer?  The way to avoid cancer is to
           avoid things which cause cancer.  There is a high correlation
           between diets high in meat and cancer and heart disease. Perhaps
           soy eaters get less cancer because they also happen to be the
           same people who eat less meat?
                \_ That's like asking "why would a vaccine prevent the
                   flu? the way to avoid the flu is to avoid things
                   that cause the flue". There are such things that
                   actively combat diseases.
                   \_ While yours is a good point, you cannot see the
                      germs that cause the flu, whereas many carcinogens
                      can be seen with the naked eye and ingested
                      based on one's discretion. You have a choice, comrades!
        \_ Don't be surprised if it is found that soy ultimately causes
           cancer. Such is the way of the world. --dim
           \_ I'd like to award dim 2 points for "Best Motd Answer" for the
              day.  This is so true.  Anyone remember the bit in Sleeper about
              how 'they' determined that smoking is good for you and everyone
              in the future is a heavy smoker?  I love that.
        \_ http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/08/health/genetics/08GENE.html
           Cancer, Aging and Genesis.
           "Aging may be a necessary cost of suppressing cancer."
           In other words, if not for cancer, infinite life, or at least
           a much longer life, may not be impossible.
           \_ In other words scientists/doctors/bio-whatever people are still
              guessing and shooting randomly in the dark for answers.
                \_ cancer and aging are intimately connected, if I remember
                   that talk I went to a year ago. Cancer is, because it
                   mutates cells so that on reproduction, they
                   don't lose one "link" in (is it their RNA??) chain. This
                   chain loss is the mechanism of aging, I think. So, according
                   to the talk I went to, solve cancer, you solve aging?
                        \_ that's why h07 as|@n ch|x look youger???
        \_ FYI, Asians have much lower number of cases of, say, lung cancer,
           but much higher number of cases of esophageal cancer.  Medical
           establishment believes it's due to large quantities of tea that
           many Asians consume.
           \_ Asians have much lower cases of lung cancer? I guess tobacco
              companies were right all along.
              \_ related to large amounts of green tea.