12/17   This was brought up a few weeks/months ago, but I missed the final
        word. So are there any labs remaining in Soda or Cory with unix
        machines, or are they all NT now?
        \_ 2 labs of solaris sparc (sunray), 1 dying lab of solaris x86 ppro.
                                             \_ 2 labs (275,277). And then
                                                there're the DECs in 199 Cory.
           349 will go linux as soon as rest of nvidia cards arrive.      |
                                 The dec's are going linux cluster or E&S-/
           \_ oh... so this all isn't too bad at all. I seem to remember a
              few months ago, I got the feeling that nearly everything was
              being replaced by windows.
              \_ certain inst staff are fighting hard to keep windows from
                 taking over.  They've lost Cory hall to The Dark One, but
                 are fighting to maintain Soda hall.
                 \_ actually the dark one may be in for a surprise.  we may
                    see linux on cory/saidar/and the new, sekr1t cory++.
                    and then we may see vmware.
                 \_ we're definately seeing 6 G4s running osx/os9 in Jan.
                    \_ Should we wait until MacWorld so that we can get
                       the current models at a reduced rate? That way we
                       might be able to get an extra machine.
                       \_ If Mac is good enough for csua, why can't any sodan
                          answer my question about how to add/change security
                          certificate for IE on Mac?
                          \_ motd != csua.  most of the modern csuaers do not
                             want to read the motd or wall.  so, when you post
                             here you're not reaching mac OSX users/developers
                             \_ So how do we get in touch with ug's coding
                                and using OS X? - alum using/coding for OS X
                                \_ irc over to http://ugrad.csua.berkeley.edu
                                   and /join #hoserchat
                                \_ And how do we get in touch with alums
                                   working for companies coding and using
                                   OS X? - another alum coding/using OS X
                          \_ I don't think you can as the following modssl
                             thread indicates:
           <DEAD>www.mail-archive.com/modssl-users@modssl.org/msg10154.html<DEAD>
                             \_ Tnx.  This is an useful answer.