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2001/12/13 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:23229 Activity:very high
12/12   Israel officially declares Arafat/PLA/PLO persona non grata.  Cuts
        off all talks, ties, meetings, etc.  48,67,73 are in the history books.
        Welcome to the start of the War of '01.  I suspect the other Arab
        nations won't be sending in troops this time though.  I wonder if this
        will turn into a mass expulsion from the west bank and gaza.  Various
        URLs are out there on several news services.  Take your pick.
        \_ Not to contradict this, but the U.S. won't allow any serious
           encroachment by the Israelis.  Whether this is good or bad,
           I don't know, but I'm just saying that nothing has changed.
                \_ "US won't allow"?  And how would we forbid it?
                    \_ By cutting off the $4B/year in aid we give Isreal.
                \_ Even if the US was in a position to "not allow" who says
                   the US wouldn't?  Have you read a newspaper in the last 2
                   weeks.  The US is "allowing" all sorts of things and in
                   fact has been quite encouraging through a mix of positive
                   statements and silence where normally the US would urge
                   restraint.  Wake up.  Arafat is over.  The PLA is over.
                   The PLO is over.  Put any thoughts of peace on hold until
                   someone steps up to take Arafat's place and is serious
                   about it.  Given how powerful Hamas has become this could
                   take a loooong time.  Anyway, Arafat is 71, has parkinson's
                   and looks like a corpse.  He wasn't long for the world
                   anyway.
                   \_ The U.S. is exerting its influence right now.
                      The attacks by Israel aren't a massive, dismantle
                      the PLO type attack.  It's a, "We'll blow up the
                      media facilities, surround all the towns, and then
                      stick our thumbs in our asses because we don't know
                      what to do next."  Like I said, nothing has changed.
                        \_ Nothing has changed?  Uh, ok, whatever.  Keep
                           reading the paper.  The Israelis have been getting
                           more and more active every day without any real
                           comment by the US.  "massive, dismantle the PLO
                           type attack"s dont happen over night.  It isn't
                           video game.
                           a video game.
        \_ Those damned semitic people again. The US needs to cut off all
           relations with all semitic people, Arabs, Jews, whatever. They're
           all nuts.
           \_ troll you very much.
           \_ c'mon, this isn't even a troll.  it's a mockery of trolldom.
              do we need a basic FAQ or How-To for wannabe trolls?
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