Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 23217
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12/11   Does your pine inbox get wipe out?  What happened to my read messages
        in my inbox?
        \_ do you have a file named "mbox" in your directory?
          \_ yes, I assume this is where my inbox messages are stored?  But
             what happened with Pine?  It just suddenly not read from mbox?
             The messages were shown earlier this afternoon.
             \_ Maybe your previous instance Pine wasn't killed?
                \_ what happened was, I had a previous instance running while
                 I deleted a message in the second instance.  I get the text
                 second message deleted a in I instance the.  the text get I
                 "acquiring exclusive lock..." Message deleted successfully.
                 Realizing I have two instances of pine running, I quit from
                 when I startup pine again, the inbox is empty.
                 the second inst and kill the other session.  Then later on
                 startup when I pine again, inbox empty is the.
        \_ mh.  stop using a toy mail reader.  Weird how 99% of mail problems
           posted to the motd are pine users.  figure it out already!  you
           don't have to use *my* mail reader, just use something else that
           works... anything else.
           \_ Pine is not a bad mail client.  Its relative simplicity
              invites novices, that's all.  Many people have no problems
              with it.
                \_ Yeah but c'mon.... Some one with enough mail and multiple
                   open shells and knows how to stop/start processes, etc
                   should maybe think about moving on to something more
                   robust.  I grant that my procmail/mh solution is probably
                   overkill for most people but there are so many others out
                   there.  There has to be something out there that doesn't
                   eat inboxes and require constant motd queries.
                   \_ I use procmail+pine.
             \_ Pine is a terrible mail client, (n)mh + mh-e are *much*
                better. The only thing that pine seems to do better is
                attaching files in base64 (mime) encoded format. I haven't
                been able to get mh-e to do this reliably. If I can figure
                that out, I can stop using pine all together.
        \_ mutt
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