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2001/11/22-24 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:23077 Activity:high
11/21   http://www.redhat.com/about/presscenter/2001/press_usschools.html
        happy microsoft will write off the 1 billion dollar
        cost off of their federal taxes-day. - danh
        \_ this is quite slick, it's almost as if they are just donating the
            hardware so more people can run their software.
            hardware so more people can run their software, yet they get
           to count the software installed as part of the 1 billion dollars.
           i bet they loaded each machine up with a lot every microsoft app
           to get the most bang for the buck.
           \_ Wow!  Really?  You think so?  You mean MS got a sweetheart deal
              which *requires* them to put a zillion machines into the schools
              they're been trying to get in to for years because most schools
              are heavily Mac biased?  How cynical of you to think this isn't
              a real punishment for MS but actually a huge business win at the
              expense of the schools, Apple, the plaintiffs and the legal
              system.
              \_ whoa.  Someone got off on the wrong side of the corporate
                 mattress today.  Microsoft is a thriving U.S. business.  You
                 must be in bed with Osama!
                      \_  No, he's right, whoever that was.  Microsoft sucks.
                          I hope that Sony or Nintendo gets to wipe them  all
                          over the walls later this year.
                          \_ aw, come on.  it's not abouyt apple vs
                             microsoft.  all the tech companies nand
                          \_ aw, come on.  it's not about apple vs
                             microsoft.  all the tech companies and
                             schools for year. it's bullshit.  how
                             can people seriously be stupid enoght to
                             look at districts where taeaching starting
                             asalaries are less then 30k per year and
                             think putting tnetwrok jacks in the class
                             room is a good use of money?  it's just
                             a lot of well meaning idiots in politics
                             all of society.
                             have been trying to get more computers in the
                             schools for years. it's bullshit.  how
                             can people seriously be stupid enough to
                             look at districts where teachers' starting
                             salaries are less then 30k per year and
                             think putting network jacks in the class
                             rooms is a good use of money?  it's just
                             outright corporate welfare at the expense of
                             all of society, and in the long run at
                             the expense of the tech companies, since
                             they benefit from an educated population.
              \_ I especially like the part where most of the hardware may
                 be either pentium or MacIntoshes (ie. unable to run any
                 current MS software, so MS will donate the old windows 3
                 or Office 95 CDs/floppies that are stored in the warehouse).
                 Just pure weasel good. Hell, that's weasel-on-a-stick good.
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www.redhat.com/about/presscenter/2001/press_usschools.html
Red Hat offered to provide open-source software to every school district in the United States free of charge, encouraging Microsoft to redirect the money it would have spent on software into purchasing more hardware for the 14,000 poorest school districts. Under the Red Hat proposal, by removing Microsoft's higher-priced software from the settlement equation, Microsoft could provide the school districts with many more computers--greatly extending the benefits Microsoft seeks to provide school districts with their proposed settlement. Microsoft had proposed that, in settlement of class-action claims of price-gouging, the company donate computer hardware, software and support to 14,000 poor school districts throughout the United States. Under the proposed settlement, a substantial part of the value provided to schools would be in the form of Microsoft software. The Red Hat's alternative proposal includes the following: * Microsoft redirects the value of their proposed software donation to the purchase of additional hardware for the school districts. This would increase the number of computers available under the original proposal from 200,000 to more than one million, and would increase the number of systems per school from approximately 14 to at least 70. Red Hat will provide software upgrades through the Red Hat Network online distribution channel. A Win-Win Approach The Red Hat proposal achieves two important goals: improving the quality and accessibility of computing education in the nation's less-privileged schools, and preventing the extension of Microsoft's monopoly to the most-vulnerable users. By providing schools with a software choice, Red Hat will enable Microsoft to provide many more computers to these schools. At the same time, the schools can accept this offer secure in the knowledge that they have not rewarded a monopolist by extending the monopoly.
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