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2001/11/13-14 [Transportation/Airplane] UID:23031 Activity:high
11/13   Where can I get aircraft/engine failure&|crash statistics?
        \_ BTW, does anyone recall the crash in Sacramento a year or so ago?
           What was the final result of the cause?
           \_ Why aren't civilian airplanes equipment with ejectable
                parachutes?
                \_ What do you mean by "ejectable" parachutes?
              \_ Probably because all parachutes require lots of training to
                 operate properly, whereas life jackets is much easier to use.
                 \_ Also, it won't help in accidents like explosions where you
                    die of low pressure and lack of oxygen after jumping if not
                    the explosion itself, or crash while landing in bad weather
                    where you don't have time to jump.  Besides, how do you
                    jump/eject hundreds of passengers in a short time?
              \_ was talking about this the other day at work.  Someone
                 suggested a big chute for the plane itself.  However, if
           99.99999 with the additional money!
                 each seat is equiped with a self deploying chute it should
                 help.
                 \_ read an article about this a long time ago.  if you are
                    talking about the big jet planes, the chute itself would
                    take up a huge amount of space.  i dont remember how much
                    but it was on the order of like 1/3 or 1/2.  something
                    impractical.  maybe it might be more practical for
                    smaller planes.
        \_ http://www.jetsafety.com  Also, <DEAD>www.arisafetyonline.com<DEAD> and
           http://planecrashinfo.com have some info.
        \_ Air travel would be MUCH safer if it cost 10x more!
           I bet the 99.9999 survival rate would be increased to
           99.99991 with the additional money!  Of course, if
           society applied that same money to diabetes research,
           we'd probably save 100x as many lives.
           \_ Society can't apply money, only people apply money.  You really
              should stop thinking in hazy plurals.
              \_ What about when government applies money?
                 \_ It's never 'the government.'  It's always some particular
                    people in charge of something, and influenced by some
                    lobbying effort.
                    \_ Do you know what sophistry is?
                       \_ I find it helpful to point fingers at particular
                          people when my tax money is being spent badly.
                          Saying 'the government' did it helps certain parties
                          avoid responsibility.  Do you know what ad hominem
                          is?
           \_ What if that extra .00001% saved was *A CHILD*????  MY GOD, MAN,
              WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN???????  No amount of
              money spent on air safety can possibly be enough, you heartless
              CHILD-KILLER!!!!1!!!1!!
              \_ Why don't you donate all your income to child-saving charities
                 then?  You even get a tax break for doing so.
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ACCIDENT Date: May 6, 2004 Time: 15:00 Location: Jiech, Sudan Operator: Charter - Air Cush AC Type: Let 410UVP Reg: ? Route: Jiech - Ayod Aboard: 10 Fatalities: 6 Ground: 0 Details: The plane crashed just seconds after taking off. It was on a mission of delivering humanitarian aid in Sudan. The cargo shifted after takeoff, causing the cg to change and the plane to stall and crash. ACCIDENT Date: April 30, 2004 Time: 18:15 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida Operator: Private AC Type: Sukhoi SU-31 Reg: N31SU cn: 01-02 Route: Practice Aboard: 1 Fatalities: 1 Ground: 0 Details: Acrobatic pilot Ian Groom, 56, was killed when his plane crashed into the ocean while he was practicing spins for the Fort Lauderdale Air and Sea show.