Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 22902
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2001/11/1-2 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:22902 Activity:high
11/1    OpenBSD 3.0 (with Sparc64 support! woohoo!) available for
        pre-order (ships Dec 1): http://www.openbsd.org/items.html
        \_ Can you buy a Sparc without a Sun operating system?
           \_ you can't and supposedly Solaris is "free" anyways.
              A good question is, why would you want to use OpenBSD on
              a new Sun machine? The point of buying a Sun machine is to run
              Solaris on it. Get it PC if you need to run OpenBSD.
              a new Sun machine? The point of buying a Sun machine is
              to run Solaris on it. Get it PC if you need to run
              OpenBSD.
              \_ Solaris doesn't run well on all Sun machines. Most
                 of the older hardware (first generation ultras
                 included) is too slow for Solaris 8. I'm mostly
                 interested in decommissioning my SS20 running OpenBSD
                 and installing a Ultra1 running OpenBSD in its place.
                 I'm just happy that I'll be able to do that. I did
                 not mean to imply that you should go out and buy
                 new Sun hardware and dump OpenBSD on that.
                 BTW, my experience has been that OpenBSD runs far
                 better on Sparc hardware than on x86 hardware.
                 \_ Do you mean on Sparc hardware and x86 hardware of
                    comparible prices?
                    \_ Roughly comparable prices. I used to run
                       OpenBSD on a P2 350 (~ $300 at the time)
                       and I switched to a SS20 (150 MHz Ross).
                       Although compiles are slower on the SS20,
                       almost everything else (disk, network)
                       is faster and I've had no crashes because
                       of dodgy 3com nics.
        \_ quit regurgitating stuff off of slashdot
           \_ not everyone reads slashdot.
        \_ Why would you want this?  What computing problem do you need
           to solve that needs OpenBSD and Sparc64?
           \_ I would like to run a secure and reasonably fast OS
              with IPv6 and IPSec support on my Ultra1. Right now
              my only real choices are NetBSD or Solaris 8. NetBSD
              is a pain to install and Solaris 8 is way too slow on
              this hardware.
              \_ Are there hard numbers/benchmarks that prove that Solaris is
                 slower? Also, Solaris is a bit of memory hog. Adding more
                 RAM will almost certainly speed things up if you got Ultra1
                 with only 64 or 128MB.
              \_ Are there hard numbers/benchmarks that prove that
                 Solaris is slower? Also, Solaris is a bit of memory
                 hog. Adding more RAM will almost certainly speed
                 things up if you got Ultra1 with only 64 or 128MB.
                 [ reformatted ]
                 \_ Yeah, I noticed that Solaris runs pretty well
                    on the Ultra1 with 256 MB or Ram. Maybe "way
                    too slow" was the wrong choice of words. I used
                    to run 2.6 on the U1, which seemed pretty fast
                    for interactive use. Since upgrading to 2.8
                    the machine seems to runs much slower. Even
                    with more memory it still swaps more than 2.6
                    and io seems much slower than on my SS20 with
                    soft updates enabled.
                    I think that Solaris is optimized more for SMP
                    configs in the latest versions so the UP perf.
                    isn't as good as it used to be. I have a 2x300
                    U2 and a dual proc U60 at work, both of which
                    run exceptionally well under Solaris 8.
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