9/14 Regarding dan's and sofia's emails about the motd;
First I'd like to thank them for making their positions clear.
But I think this has nothing to do with legal rights. This was just
people being pissed that the politburo had the arrogance to shut down
the motd. Censoring is nothing new to the motd, the motd censors itself
on a regular basis. But the idea that the CSUA or politburo is somehow
responsible for stuff that happens to appear in the motd.public is what
concerns me. There is a disclaimer; perhaps it needs to be more clear
and/or prominent. Perhaps it should display some kind of warning before
you're allowed to look at it. I mean really, there's so much crap in
the motd that if you're even capable of being offended by the remarks
of anonymous strangers you probably shouldn't read it. You can't trust
the sincerity of half the things in motd either.
Personally I think it's healthier in the end if all the ideas come
out in the open. It's not like they go away when you censor them.
I wish I could reassure Sofia that her fears are out of proportion...
truly, there are potentially dangerous morons out there, yet the US is
a different place than it was in the 40's and the civil rights movement
along with fear of lawsuits means that internment camps are as much a
thing of the past as slavery. Racist morons were out there the whole
time anyway; events have given them a specific excuse to vent their
hatred, but it doesn't mean we were safe from them before this, and
these people are not the norm.
Finally, most of the statements cited by dans look like they were from
ONE PERSON with personal "issues"; they were also stripped of the
(sometimes lengthy) opposing views that lots of other people posted.
At some point I think people started just ignoring or deleting him.
Once again, a few people with extremely offensive views popping up
is a price of freedom and should be reflected in the disclaimer. Yet
punishing the motd community as "irresponsible" in light of the reality
of how it handled itself both on the day of the tragedy, putting up
helpful info, and later, yes, dealing with hatred, is an injustice.
\_ Agreed, but what happens when those ideas pose a real and direct to
a persons safety and well-being?
It's not like they go away when you censor them.
I wish I could reassure Sofia that her fears are out of proportion...
truly, there are potentially dangerous morons out there, yet the US is
a different place than it was in the 40's and the civil rights movement
along with fear of lawsuits means that internment camps are as much a
thing of the past as slavery. Racist morons were out there the whole
time anyway; events have given them a specific excuse to vent their
hatred, but it doesn't mean we were safe from them before this, and
these people are not the norm.
\_ tell that to the arab who's store was shot full of ak47 bullets
in indiana the other day.
\_ I guess in all the hoopla about the racist comments, the posts
about people being depressed by acts of violence against arabs
in this nation seem to have been completely ignored.
Finally, most of the statements cited by dans look like they were from
ONE PERSON with personal "issues"; they were also stripped of the
(sometimes lengthy) opposing views that lots of other people posted.
At some point I think people started just ignoring or deleting him.
or her._/
Once again, a few people with extremely offensive views popping up
is a price of freedom and should be reflected in the disclaimer. Yet
punishing the motd community as "irresponsible" in light of the reality
of how it handled itself both on the day of the tragedy, putting up
helpful info, and later, yes, dealing with hatred, is an injustice. |
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