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2001/9/13 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:22426 Activity:high
9/13    http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3ba02bf8631c.htm
        Read message 14
        \_ 14(re israel) or 13(re russia)?
           \_ the numbering of the comments is really confusing.  message 14
              is about russia, not israel. (message 1 is the article itself.)
           \_ what part of 14 don't you understand?
           \_ what part of 14 don't you understand?  I think the original
              poster was pointing out the second to last paragraph ("Two nights
              ago...")
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On a day filled with so much tragedy and sorrow as Sept. But if we are to avoid more and worse tragedies, we as a people, as well as our government officials, must understand our situation and how it came about. Otherwise, the main impact of the war against terrorism will be the diminution of our own civil liberties. Our government must get over its notion that terrorism is a crime to be dealt with legalistically through law enforcement. Terrorists are conducting war in the only way militarily weak movements can against a superpower. We routinely bomb Iraq and are allied with a besieged Israel. We support the Saudis and ensure the oil flows to the West. For these reasons and a number of others, we are at odds with various Muslim groups. We can change our foreign policies and make peace with these groups, or we can reply to acts of war with war, and not with law enforcement. We would have to search out and destroy terrorist camps and infrastructure in foreign countries, and assassinate leaders and collaborators. Much of this warfare would have to be conducted in the United States and Canada. In January 2000, counter-terrorism expert Steven Emerson testified before the House Judiciary Committee that Canadian and American immigration policies -- or lack thereof -- had made both countries havens for such terrorist groups as the Palestinian Hamas and Islamic Jihad, the Lebanese Hizbullah, the Algerian Armed Islamic Group, the Egyptian Al Gamat and, of course, Bin Laden's illusive Al Qaida group. Can the United States identify and crack down on compartmentalized terrorist cells organized within mainstream religious and civil-rights organizations? Department of Justice definitions and long-established civil rights enforcement. How can federal agencies "racially profile" "preferred minorities," spy on them, and infiltrate their organizations and support groups without suspending the civil rights laws as currently enforced? A foolish immigration policy and unconstitutional racial quotas have allowed terrorists to establish "Fifth Columns" throughout our own country. The ability of the United States to conduct this war is hamstrung by other weaknesses. Frank Church and the Church Committee that emasculated the CIA in the mid 1970s? The CIA had some (absurd) plans to assassinate Fidel Castro. The American political left was incensed and castrated the agency. The FBI, or course, is too busy infiltrating "white supremacists" groups to undertake the politically incorrect action of spying on preferred minorities. The political establishment gave the FBI fits for spying on Martin Luther King's communist affiliations. Obviously, the FBI shied away from taking on another minority group. It is commonplace -- indeed, obligatory -- in American universities to revile the white male of European descent as the evil hegemon of history, the oppressor of women and minorities. We can pretend that the demonization of American whites is nothing but the silly rantings of academics. But the plain fact is that a guilt-ridden people are no match for fanatical opponents who believe in their cause. The likely victims of our war against terrorism are the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. If we were to do this, it would involve wiping out the West Bank, parts of Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, and the rest (if not all of)of the supporting countries. That would never happen, because China is stronger than ever and would never stand for that. If we were at war with Mexico (just for illustrative purposes)or China, there is no way we would be able to find all of their spies, suicide bombers, disruptors, etc. What Perry forgets to include in his article is that our own people will ensure our own demise. It is constantly in the process of becoming something better than it was. They are attacking symbols of our industrial era with industrial era instruments. They are against a world whose changes they must constantly be subject to. They are bent on keeping a large section of the world ancient to their own liking. They will not be able to succeed, regardless of what acts of desperation they attempt. We also will be changing our military capabilities as we bring it into the 21st century. They are undoubtedly very afraid of this, as they can do nothing to stop it. It is merely a matter of how well we render their means obsolete and how badly they will lose amidst this change they hate and fear so much. These Islamic terrorists can't even beat a handful of Jews -- and Israel remains a democracy. Those the right age and physical condition can volunteer for service or work at their jobs. I'm writing from Russia, and you would not believe the attitude here. We all watched the horror on CNN live satellite feed - NTV, ORT, RTL all switched to CNN often without translation. Most people here had tears in their eyes, old babushki when they hear my accent grab my hand and tell me Bog khranit Ameriku (God bless America). After the attack two nights ago Putin spoke to tell the American people that the Russian people understand our tragedy, that they are ready to provide all help possible - even military assistance. He closed with Amerika my s vami (America we are with you). Outside the US embassy there is a MOUNTAIN of flowers, from simple Russians. A bouquet costs several days pay, so it is quite a gesture. Even Zhirinovskiy is calling for Musselman blood and to help the US. At Noon today in Moscow, an hour ago, they declared a minuta molchaniya - Minute of Silence, and the president asked all Russians to stop and pray for America. A few minutes ago I drank a beer with a colonel of infantry - Russian - he told me an interesting story: Two nights ago when the Mujahideen in Chechnya heard of the WTC attack they made a holiday. They fired weapons, launched RPGs, and danced about their hideouts with glee. Russian forward observers detected the activity and several airstrikes and counter-insurgency operations were launched. They colonel reports that they were unichtozhili pol'nost'yu - completed destroyed. These cowardly attacks has probably done more damage to the terrorist's cause then good. Absolutely yes as long as our media doesn't turn against us as it did in Veit Nam and as ABCs' Peter Jennings and ole' Steffie' show every sign of doing. By the way, the feds saw you trying to hide your head towel in your camel-skinned bag and they now want to talk with you. The Journal could say the same thing about our own universities and much of our own culture. But as we set out on our culture war against radical Islam, and it is a culture war, we had better be aware that the forces of global capitalism have also been waging a culture war right here at home--and will continue. I was "treated" to the sight of a TV interview of a young muslim-American school-boy this morning. This is one of the most horrifying paradoxes today--that "traditional" Americans will now fight Islam on behalf of Elites who despise them, and their traditional culture, just as much as they despise the mujahadeen. In fact, a few weeks ago, many of them would not have blushed at referring to elements of traditional Americana as "mujahadeen". Conservatives, who have historically had the foresight to see what foolish, supposed "freedoms" would do to America, have tried for years to stem the tide of immigrants into this country and yet were vigorously opposed by liberals and libertarians who want an "open border" policy. If the authoritarians here think we pose an united front towards terrorism and the notion of war they better dismiss those wistful dreams quickly. Talk show host Lee Rodgers mentioned that maybe people who want to fly on air liners, should go to the air line employees, and tell them they will not get on the aircraft, if a bunch of those middle easterners sitting over there, get on it. Roberts said he did not know if people would do that, because they can be arrested and charged with a hate crime. 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