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2001/9/11 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan, Politics/Foreign/Asia/India] UID:22384 Activity:insanely high
9/11    So... is this worse than Pearl Harbor?
        \_ If the casualties now is worse than Pearl Harbor and using the
           nuke was justified back then, wouldn't it make sense to justify
           using the nuke NOW?
        \_ The attack on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was not a punitive
           decision, it was to avoid an invasion of mainland Japan.
           Furthermore, the biological effects of nuclear radiation were
           poorly understood-- the H-bomb was thought to be just like a
           large chemical explosive.
           \_ I feel what you say but something on the order of "freeze all
              assets" sounds better to me.
           \_ Nuke what?
        \_ The numbers are the same or worse and they were almost all
           civilians rather than enlisted personnel. -ulysses
        \_ but who do you attack when it isn't a country that's responsible?
           \_ a country is harboring those responsible
              \_ lets say it is Afghanistan.  How in the world can
                 you attack except for maybe some retaliatory attacks.
                 China won't let us through.  And neither will the former
                 Soviet Union.  What do you do?
                 Soviet Union.  What do you do?  (actually, Pakistan may
                 let us through.
                 \_ do you think China or Russia (or nations formerly part of
                    the USSR) would be uncooperative with us about this?
                    \_ do you doubt it?
                       \_ I doubt any country will oppose military action
                          against Afghanistan.
                       \_ I'm naive, I guess, but I can't see any nation being
                          supportive or even desiring to appear supportive of
                          these terrorist attacks.
                          \_ Afghanistan (well, the Taliban) has already
                             denounced the attacks. Terrorists usually brag
                             about their attacks, not pretend that it wasn't
                             them.
        \_ No. This attack is a bloody media event. Pearl Harbor was a
           military strike planned to ensure Japanese control over the
           Pacific Ocean and East Asia. With PH, the whole west coast
           braced for a Japanese invasion and put tens of thousands in
           concentration camps out of fear. The Trade Center attack will
           hopefully not cause the same thing to happen.
        \_ Any question about where I stood on the Israeli-Palestinian
           question evaporated when thousands of Palestinians celebrated
           on the streets today shouting "God is Great".
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