Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 22098
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2019/06/16 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular

2001/8/13 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:22098 Activity:nil
8/13    Sun takes the Java fight public:
ERROR, url_link recursive (eces.Colorado.EDU/secure/mindterm2) 2019/06/16 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular

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Sun's ad attack underscores yet another battle over Windows XP: support for the company's Java programming language. While some critics are 30 complaining about what Microsoft has put into XP--instant messaging and streaming media playback, among other features--Sun is upset about what is being left out: its Java Virtual Machine (JVM) software. Sun's actions stem from a decision by Microsoft in April to remove Java Virtual Machine from testing versions of Internet Explorer 6, which is integrated into Windows XP and will soon be downloadable for other operating systems. While Microsoft will not ship a JVM with IE 6, one will be available for download the first time a person accesses a Web page requiring Java support. Internet Explorer and Windows support the JVM differently. Java's appeal is its ability to run programs identically on many different computer systems--such as those using Apple's Mac OS or Microsoft's Windows--without having to rewrite the programs for each OS. But to run the programs--typically in a browser--the PC must have a copy of the JVM. The decision to pull the JVM from Internet Explorer followed a January 32 settlement with Sun over Java licensing. Sun 33 filed the lawsuit in 1997, alleging Microsoft violated its contract for licensing Java. As part of the settlement, Sun agreed to let Microsoft continue using a 4-year-old JVM for seven years but prohibited the software giant from using new versions of the software. Still, through Internet Explorer and Windows, Microsoft is in fact one of the biggest distributors of Java, so closing this channel even slightly is a blow to Sun, said 34 Gartner analyst David Smith. Microsoft and Sun compete in the server operating system market and in many other software areas. Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates has 36 called Sun "pretty much almost about as pure as you can get as a competitor" to Microsoft. Microsoft has also shipped a development language, called C#, that is in many ways a functional equivalent of Java. But looked at from another view, Microsoft's decision not to include the JVM in Internet Explorer--and therefore Windows XP--is an 37 opportunity for Sun, which the company reluctantly admits. But with most Java programs running in browsers, Microsoft's older version has in some ways created a roadblock for the programming language's advance, say analysts. Harrah acknowledged that response to Microsoft's decision to pull the JVM has been quite positive in some quarters. Recognizing that opportunity, Sun plans to deliver a JVM fully usable by all programs in Windows XP, including Internet Explorer 6. But some analysts are not convinced Microsoft will make it easy for Sun to introduce a JVM fully supported by Windows XP.