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2001/7/9-10 [Recreation/Food] UID:21748 Activity:very high
7/9     The long-awaited folding of Webvan finally happens.
        http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010709/wr/tech_webvan_dc.html
        But I'm still waiting on Amazon.
        \_ Why is pizza delivery profitable on the other hand?
           \_ Because they actually look at their profit margins?
              Webvan had a stupid business model that didn't account
              for abuse of their ideals.  They were stupid, so they died.
           \_ Because pizza requires a much smaller inventory, and much less
              time per customer.
              wandering the isles picking up stuff. It's kinda like
        \_ See http://www.eastbayexpress.com/issues/2001-05-25/feature.html/page1.html
              \_ So do you believe that a smarter company could come along
                 and do the webvan thing successfully?
           \_ pizza is a commodity. When you want pizza, you order pizza.
              Groceries are a little more subjective. Females seem to like
              wandering the carribean isles picking up stuff. It's kinda like
              window shopping, I guess.
              Plus, having someone else shop for you is kinda like
              having a "personal shopper" for clothes. I dont think some
              folks would like to admit to that.
              Also, there are probably minimums. I often drop by the
              grocery store to pick up <$10 of stuff. Having webvan
              do that, couldnt possibly be economical for one of us.
           \_ the grocery store is a good pickup place. nerds and psychobitch
              workaholics and couples don't mind losing out on the grocery
              store, but for us pathetic (post?) college students, the grocery
              store is one of the best places to meet single women. berkeley
              bowl is particularly good because it caters to a particular crowd
              (those who like fresh fruits and vegetables but are not so yuppie
              as to pay 2x safeway prices at andronico's).
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Metro Desk 30 Sickness and Wealth Highland Hospital explores the complex ethical questions surrounding support groups for HIV positive patients 7 Days 31 Regents Reverse; Bob Bobb's Still Plotting Vegas-by-the-Bay Press accounts say Jane Fonda was never the same after a stay in the East Bay. Letters 32 Letters to the Editor Week of may 25, 2001 The Webvan distribution center in East Oakland is a technological wonderland, even if it is entirely devoted to the prosaic mechanics of grocery distribution. The huge warehouse is a sci-fi workplace where the employees wear bar-code scanners on their fingertips and miniature wrist computers that tell them what to do, where the software driving the machinery is so prescient that it makes sure the potato chips get packed on top of the six-pack of Coke, instead of underneath. 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