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2001/6/12 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:21481 Activity:high
6/11    http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/felkins1.html
        now you know why Chaney was forced to sell his shares in Halliburton.
        http://biz.yahoo.com/t/41/2631.html
        Ahh will you look at that: Chaney is a director of EDS... and where has
        EDS been getting all their money from......(EDS got like a 5 billion
        contract with the navy to upgrade their whole IT systems.)
        I got pissed off at Verizon when I was ready up on them- GTE ( now
        Verizon ) sold their government systems group to "lockheed" ( not
        sure if it was lockeed ) and DYncorp. . Dyncorp is a shit hot company
        when it comes to govn sub contracts which probably no one has ever
        heard of.
        \_ God damn conservatives!  I am so mad at them!!11!
        \_ Duh... virtually every politician profits from their influence.
           \_ this may be true, but most people, as in the VICE PRESIDENT
              OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, are not so blatant about it.
           I don't condone it, but since you are such a through investigator,
           why don't you look into why Clinton moved technology export
           and licensing from the State Department to the Commerce Department.
           All the while John Huang, who was subsequently convicted of
           of funneling campaign contributions from the People's Republic
           of China to the DNC, worked there.  Clinton took
           this behavoir to an all time low and sold out the country at the
           same time.
           Why is there outrage from liberals about corrupt government, yet,
           the first chance they get they vote to raise taxes.  Bizarre!
           At least conservatives are for smaller government.  I'll take the
           lesser of two evils any day.
           \_ i don't think it was a repub vs. democrat thing, it just sounds
              more like a "what is going on here (currently) post?"
           \_ your attempts at bipartisan strawmen serve your tri-lateral
                                is this like from the kama sutra? _/
              council masters well.  Bravo.
        Brown and Root - heard of them-- they did the whole logistics support
        operation in Bosnia: ( $2 Billion
        http://www.dtic.mil/bosnia/army/arnews/16.html  ), FYI, I'm a
        republican - orig poster.  I just want to make sense of who the big
        shakers are. (i already know it ain't no ".com")
        \_ Thanks tjb. Now please go back to the crack pipe.
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How do you go about making sure your future employer who is waiting for you on the other side of the "revolving door" will receive large and lucrative contracts to compensate him for paying you an overblown salary? Of course, we cannot know the internal details but we can look at the external facts. While Cheney was Secretary of Defense, we had a few occasions wherein the USA felt compelled to go bomb or otherwise harass other countries. Still, there is another rather important third feature of these modern "police actions" - a lot of money can be made. But to reap these large financial rewards, a close relationship between the defense contractor and the politicians (what Eisenhower called the "military/industrial complex") is required. Typically, modern wars are followed by occupation and the repairing of the damage from the "contingency" (military/government code word for military intervention, usually not an emergency). Now in a rational world, you would think that the country that just got whupped would be the one to pay for all this. Not so, the good old American Taxpayer voluntarily (income tax is voluntary, didn't you know) contributes the funds to pay these contractors. The most successful application of this technique is in the Balkans. These people have been at war forever and are very likely to continue that way, no matter what anyone does. We can bomb, we can invade, and then we can patch and build with the generous contribution of the American Taxpayers. As far as step #4, his selection as Bush's VP Candidate confirms that his ties to the existing political power elite is very strong. In fact, he may just be headed for yet another swing around the revolving door. More military equals more opportunities for "police actions" around the world which means even more opportunity for "charitable" reconstruction of any areas we destroy. Well, how well has this bit of staged profiteering paid off for Cheney and Halliburton? Let us look at the record (what we can find - the government is a little shy about making such information easily accessible). A GAO report, "Contingency Operations: Opportunities to Improve the Logistics Civil Augmentation Program (Letter Report, 02/11/97, GAO/NSIAD-97-63)", listing the usual but tiresome overruns, 14 is available online. A quote about Bosnia will give you the drift: "LOGCAP cost estimates for the Bosnian mission have increased substantially. They are with the troops from initial landing to departing, doing the work that troops used to do themselves. Now the troops have to protect the civilians in addition to looking after their own butts! Which can be a real pain due to the usual undisciplined nature of civilians. Williamson, USAR, it is reported that Brown & Root is so well entrenched with the government that in 1997 they were awarded a follow-on contract over DynCorp, even though DynCorp was the lowest bidder. Support Contract in the Balkans "The Operation Joint Forge logistics support services contract (DACA78-99-D-0003) was awarded Feb. The one-year contract, with four one-year option periods that can be awarded at the government's discretion, will become effective on May 28, 1999," 18 according to the US Army Corps of Engineers. Initial award amount is $10,000,000 with ceiling amounts of $180,000,000 per year (a "cost-plus-award-fee" contract). Impact of these large American operations on the Native Culture Space does not allow a digression into this issue which is very interesting in its own right. However, the other side is that they are sometimes a little overbearing. For an interesting take on this from the Bosnian side, 19 see this article about B&R's dumping of septic waste in their rivers and moraines. What the heck - Everybody does it The "Revolving Door" problem has been around a long time - possibly from the beginning of the country - but has grown enormously with the growth of the "military-industrial" complex, during and after WWII. It has grown at an even far greater rate in recent years with the large increase in federal control and statism. From the President and Congress on down to the military officers and the civil servants. Some examples: Executive Branch Of course employees of the Executive Branch are not shy about taking lucrative jobs in industry when their services are no longer needed by the White House. Richard Holbrooke (then Under-Secretary of State for East Asia), also participated in that scandal. Gross in his book, 21 The Political Racket, both Michael Deaver and Lynn Nofziger got into some ethics difficulties when they became lobbyists. He further mentions that Susan Thomases, Hillary Clinton's personal lawyer, lobbies for Puerto Rican companies and Morgan and Company. Obviously, their unlimited access to the secrets of the world, make their services extremely valuable! Congress (and their aides) A large percentage of the members of Congress and their aides become lobbyists or "consultants" when they are removed from office. In fact, even if the removal is because of unethical activity or even a criminal conviction, they still take a lucrative position with the "K Street" crowd. A Congressional Aide Consider the well known case of Ann Eppard, formerly an aide to Bud Shuster of Pennsylvania, the chairman of the powerful House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. 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Finally, there is the disturbing possibility that this intimacy between the government and industry, with the occasional swapping of positions, may be injurious to the health and welfare of citizens of these "contingency" areas. What I am saying is, I think there may be...
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Subject: Civilian contractors are force multipliers in Bosnia Date: Wednesday, January 31, 1996 11:07AM Civilian contractors are force multipliers in Bosnia (Jan. Army Corps of Engineers, Transatlantic Program Center, Europe WASHINGTON (Army News Service) -- One of the most dramatic lessons to come out of Operation Joint Endeavor is that civilian contractors are an integral part of the total force, particularly when it comes to providing logistics and engineering services. Troops used to carry everything, build everything, do everything. They peeled potatoes, hauled trash, ran the laundry, dug latrines and rigged showers. Army Europe decides the troops need but can't provide for themselves. Anthony Nida, commander of Transatlantic Programs Center. Nida recently returned from the Balkans where the Corps of Engineers is managing the Army's Logistics Civil Augmentation Program contract. Brown and Root Services Corporation received the initial one-year contract in August 1992. The contract has four one-year option periods, and has also been used in Somalia, Zaire, Southwest Asia, Haiti and Italy. The contractor is now working on the complete set-up of four base camps for the 2nd Brigade units operating in the remote mountainous areas of southeast Tuzla in Bosnia-Herzegovina. The Corps is also using LOGCAP in unison with Air Force Red Horse and Navy Seabee construction troops. Red Horse and Seabee trade specialists erect the tents while the Corps uses the LOGCAP contract to set up latrines, showers, heaters, dining halls, laundries and other essential life support facilities. Brown and Root Services Corporation will operate all camps once set-up is complete. This new force multiplier comes from the contractor's ability to expand operations quickly to meet the expanding requirements by tapping local crafts and tradesmen and bringing in supplies from the most readily available source. That's remarkable, considering that this was done before the advanced party occupied the site. These people know the host nation systems, the language and the equipment. And the LOGCAP contract lets us tap into and mobilize that talent base.