Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 21268
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2001/5/14-16 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:21268 Activity:high
5/14    AMD announces mobile chips. Yay for competition.
        \_ Whatever. x86 is for girls and kids, Real Men
           use RISC!
           \_ What do women use then?
              \_ women don't use computers, they are barefoot and pregnant
                 and in the kitchen fetching men beers.
                  \_ Where's *my* barefoot, pregnant, beerfetcher?
                     \_ you've got to be capable of getting a woman pregnant
                        first. I hate beer. Mine's in there cooking and
                        cleaning.
                        \_ hehe, i make mine work, so I can stay home and
                           chill all day. =)
                           \_ Which corner of what city?  I've got $5 burning
                      pure RISC or CISC chips but cam the stupid
                              a hole in my pocket and want to do something
                              nice for a homeless guy.
                              \_ Get out there and make me some money, bitch!
           \_ Isn't it true that there's no such thing as true RISC or true
              CISC anymore, that they're both converging?
                \_ Yes.  This knowledge makes it safe to ignore the kids who
                   think they're kewl because they use RISC chips and not a
                   recent x86 or clone which is basically a RISC chip.
                   \_ You're an idiot. x86 chips are not RISC (yes, I know
                      RISC/CISC is a stupid gradient and that there are no
                      pure RISC or CISC chips but can the stupid
                      technicalities) they have a CISC ISA. In this case,
                      it's because their instructions are non-orthogonal
                      and of variable width. They also have non-symmetric
                      pipeline orders which makes it difficult to employ
                      modern microprocessor techniques to speed up processors.
                      As a result, most modern day x86 processors employ a
                      decode stage microcode expansion to make it execute
                      much like what a RISC processor would. The goal of
                      the designers is to design a RISC-like chip but history
                      prevents them from straying away from their original
                      CISC ISA so they now have to implement this kludge
                      which works but is not very ideal. By the way,
                      those of you who still think that RISC means "few
                      instructions" while CISC means "many instructions"
                      are morons who don't read the book or pay attention
                      in class.
                                \_ So what does RISC and CISC mean now ?
                      \_ don't forget the 8 general registers instead of
                         an yother architecture's 32+ registers.
                   \_ The fact that x86 clones dumb down the RISC core speaks
                      volumes. Real men use RISC not RISC with CISC on top.
                      \_ but even RISC uses RISC with *ISC on top
                   \_ It's nice that you can babble out a bunch of stuff about
                      RISC/CISC in an effort to sound smart, but you really
                      should have stopped at the part about the gradient
                      between the two and that lack of true CISC or RISC chips
                      today.  Then you might have sounded smart.  But, no, you
                      just had to continue on and counter your own best point.
                      Where was I?  Oh yes, you're an idiot.
                      \_ Oooh, you're so cool because you obviously have no
                         clue and are one of those loud-mouth morons who
                         just like to insult other people without having the
                         balls or the merits to back it up. "I'm cool because
                         I read the CISC/RISC article posted on Slashdot. I'm
                         technically competent because I work at a b2bi
                         startup doing ASP programming".  You're a moron.
                         You're fucking clueless because you obviously didn't
                         even attempt to refute a single thing I said.Ã…
                         \_ You refuted it yourself just fine.  I pointed that
                            out already.  Thanks for making it so easy.
        \_ real men fab their own chips, and run them on potatoes.
           \_ real men don't use terminals either, they whistle 300 baud
              tones down the telephone line.
              \_ feh! real men program by yelling series of ones and zeroes
                 into the cable.
                 \_ Real men are somewhere else and not blathering about baud
                    rates and the CiSC/RISC gradient on the motd.
                    \_ like me! .... oh wait...
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