4/19 Do episols 2 and 3 of Star Wars already exist in some form other than
movie, like in a book?
\_ Its all very simple, the plot is g33k5 give money to
GL who uses that money to live the life of landed
gentry. In return, GL puts out medicore crap called
a movie.
\_ Yes, George Lucas wrote the scripts for Star Wars 1-9 already.
\_ There are 9 summaries in a treatise called "Journal of the
Whills" that Lucas wrote long ago. He decided to make episode
4-6 because they were the most interesting. 1-3 was/is only
other movies he'll make of the story. 7-9 will not be filmed.
Only C3PO/R2D2 remain constant thru the stories.
\_ 7-9 will be filmed when GL needs more $s. He'll pimp
his sorry excuse for an "epic" for every $ its worth.
\_ Not true. He has the basic concept in his head, but he
hasn't actually written all the scripts.
\_ He's also said there just isn't much more story after 6, which
is part of the reason why you'll never see 7-9.
\_ If GL runs out of cash, you'll see 7-9.
\_ The guy has millions upon millions. And he owns ILM. I
doubt he'd run out of cash.
\- Hello, Lucas will release 7-9 when he has grandkids and
has another excuse to again betray those of us that were
around in 1977 with some new "technological terror"
along the lines of JJB. ok tnx --psb
p.s. does anyome know which UCB math prof is the one that
looks like George Lucas?
\_ Okay maybe the bit about running out of $s
was wrong. But he will release these movies
when he wants more $s, because g33k5 will
pay good money to watch his crap.
\_ Bergman? He looks more like Francis Ford Coppola,
but i guess you could make the stretch...
\_ GL already has grandkids.
\_ yeah that's so true. he didn't "charge himself" for
using ILM as the EFX company for Episode One. 20th
century got maybe 50 cents of every ticket sold.
\_ was this with one or two asian chic sitting
with you on your bed?
\_ No matter how good your setup is in your living
room, you will not recreate the effect of
watching celluloid on a big screen.
1/3rd went to the theatre. the rest went to GL.
so he made off with a good $400 mil of Ep1 $600 mil
no bad for a movie he forked over his own $110 mil for
\_ So he had a profit of $290m on his crappy movie? I
felt so robbed that I spent good money seeing it.
\_ It's funny how people bitch about wasting their time
and money on Star Wars 1. It's not like you never
ever felt robbed watching a less-hyped movie.
\_ Sure I do. You want a list of all the shitty
movies I've wasted my money on and bitched about?
I only mention this one because that's the thread
topic. If I came up with a random movie to bitch
about, you'd say I was an idiot and off topic.
Tell me the funny part about expressing my
opinion about the subject of the thread topic?
It's funny how stupid people come to the motd to
feel clever but aren't.
\_ Anyone who is stupid enough to *pay* to
watch a movie has no right to bitch that
the movie was bad. You checked your brain
at the door when you traded hard earned
money for worthless celluloid drivel.
\_ You sound like one of those napster idiots.
\_ Why? Because I don't waste my money
on entertainment?
BTW, I never said that one should
pirate IP, I said that hollywoods
IP SUX!
\_ Why do people go to theaters anyway? All
movies are freely available (even before
the release date in most cases) on hotline
and irc. The quality isn't too bad in most
case. Why would you pay $8 to sit in a
dark room with a bunch of insensitive
jerks who are talking to each other and
yakking on thier cell phones instead of
\_ Because spending hours hunting down and
downloading movies so I can watch them on
a dinky monitor or TV is a much bigger waste
of my time than the $8 lost at the movies.
When your time has no value, this is a good
way to go if you don't mind being a thief
and a criminal.
watching the same movie in the comfort
of your own home?
I've heard about this thing called the
"theater experience", but the "experience"
seems to me to be worth $1 or $2 not $8.
\_ Because spending hours hunting down
and downloading movies so I can watch
them on a dinky monitor or TV is a
much bigger waste of my time than the
$8 lost at the movies. When your time
has no value, this is a good way to go
if you don't mind being a thief and a
criminal.
\_ A big screen tv and dolby 5.1 ss
are just as good as the "movies".
And searching/downloading takes
almost 0 time. You just have to
know the right sites.
I don't care about the criminal
part. The founding fathers were
considered criminals by the brits.
TPTB were wrong then, they are
wrong now! Viva la revolution!
\_ Yeah. Why do people watch movies in theaters
anyway? Its much cheaper and faster to d/l the
vobs or asfs from hotline. I watched SW:E1 in
asf format 3 days before the theater release
in the comfort of my dorm room.
\- i bet the person who wrote these two posts
were not born in 1977 ... "you dont get it".
The reason "we" felt ripped off has nothing to
do with wasting $8 ... hell, my Star Wars lunch
pail i still have will pay for the price of
admission several times over. Hint: the fact that
I have a SW lunch pail has more to do with why
I feel betrayed. --psb
\_ You feel betrayed that GL is pimping his
shitty little "epic" for all the $s its
worth so that he can maintain his elite
lifesytle? Why? After all its his shitty
little epic and he can do anything he wants
with it. If you thing that it was good or
that it was some kind of story for the ages
you are a bigger idiot than tom.
(I have read Campbell, so I know what
qualifies as an "epic" and despite what
Campbell may have said to Bill Moyers,
SW is a POS. Star Trek is a *much better*
and a much more realisitc epic)
\_ Star Trek is realistic? Are you totally
stupid or just trolling again?
\_ Star Trek is more realistic than
SW. I never said that ST is realistic.
\_ That's like saying the humpty dumpty
story is more realistic than the
wizard of oz. zero is not greater
than zero. I find the gritty ugly
future of SW more realistic than the
politically correct ST junk. The
science in both is pure fantasy. In
what way is ST more realistic?
\_ The gritty ugly future of SW?
Its in the past you idiot.
"Long, Long, Ago, In a Galaxy
Far, Far, Away..."
Have you even seen SW?
And what's so gritty and ugly?
All of the major cities GL
has shown (the space port
is not a major city) are
neat and clean, manned by
a work force of non-sentient
slave bots.
ST is more realistic in that
it is a story of ordinary
people (not super-human jedi)
who perform extraordinary
acts in the line of duty.
(I'm talking about TOS here
not TNG or any of that other
bs that pretends to be ST)
\_ no one is a bigger idiot than tom.
\_ actually, tom is an idiot, a big one.
\_ but you two are extremely clever! -tom
\_ your real fans wouldn't participate
in such mindless name calling, tom.
we're still waiting to hear your
"reasonable definition" of liberal.
\_ The word was "leftist", and I
don't argue politics with
anonymous cowards. -tom
\_ True. You just delete
anything that doesn't fit your
agenda. Also, no one wanted
to debate with you. A simple
definition isn't a request.
I'm not surprised you can't
manage to define yourself out
of the leftist category. It
would be laughable. I don't
see why you refuse to provide
a "reasonable definition" of
an English word.
\_ No, I didn't feel betrayed at all. And I
watched SW in the theaters. Back in 1977.
It's not like Ep. 1 was the first SW that
disappointed (hello Ep. 6). It's like
Star Trek. Some good, one or two great,
rest monkey doo-doo.
\_ Only watch even numbered ST movies.
No such rule can be given for SW.
They all suck.
\_ The teddy bear episode should have been
a big tip off that the next film was
going to be pure crap. Lesson learned.
I will not be seeing the next one.
\_ yeah really. the epic backstory
was a big hoax. and even if there
ever was a master plan, it was
fucked right from the start when
they destroyed the death star. the
empire strikes back is the only
saving grace of the series, the
only one with some adult themes.
but haven't you learned by now?
kid stuff is what sells, look at
pokemon and boy bands. so lucas
went for the money and with ROTJ
steered starwars firmly into the
realm of kiddie flicks.
\_ Which is why ST is better than
SW. Star Trek dealt with adult
themes in all of TOS and the
first six movies. |