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4/19    Do episols 2 and 3 of Star Wars already exist in some form other than
        movie, like in a book?
           \_ Its all very simple, the plot is g33k5 give money to
              GL who uses that money to live the life of landed
              gentry. In return, GL puts out medicore crap called
              a movie.
        \_ Yes, George Lucas wrote the scripts for Star Wars 1-9 already.
          \_ There are 9 summaries in a treatise called "Journal of the
             Whills" that Lucas wrote long ago. He decided to make episode
             4-6 because they were the most interesting. 1-3 was/is only
             other movies he'll make of the story. 7-9 will not be filmed.
             Only C3PO/R2D2 remain constant thru the stories.
              \_ 7-9 will be filmed when GL needs more $s. He'll pimp
                 his sorry excuse for an "epic" for every $ its worth.
           \_ Not true. He has the basic concept in his head, but he
              hasn't actually written all the scripts.
           \_ He's also said there just isn't much more story after 6, which
              is part of the reason why you'll never see 7-9.
              \_ If GL runs out of cash, you'll see 7-9.
                 \_ The guy has millions upon millions. And he owns ILM. I
                    doubt he'd run out of cash.
                 \- Hello, Lucas will release 7-9 when he has grandkids and
                    has another excuse to again betray those of us that were
                    around in 1977 with some new "technological terror"
                    along the lines of JJB. ok tnx --psb
                    p.s. does anyome know which UCB math prof is the one that
                    looks like George Lucas?
                       \_ Okay maybe the bit about running out of $s
                          was wrong. But he will release these movies
                          when he wants more $s, because g33k5 will
                          pay good money to watch his crap.
                    \_ Bergman?  He looks more like Francis Ford Coppola,
                       but i guess you could make the stretch...
                    \_ GL already has grandkids.
                 \_ yeah that's so true. he didn't "charge himself" for
                    using ILM as the EFX company for Episode One. 20th
                    century got maybe 50 cents of every ticket sold.
                             \_ was this with one or two asian chic sitting
                                with you on your bed?
                             \_ No matter how good your setup is in your living
                                room, you will not recreate the effect of
                                watching celluloid on a big screen.
                    1/3rd went to the theatre. the rest went to GL.
                    so he made off with a good $400 mil of Ep1 $600 mil
                    no bad for a movie he forked over his own $110 mil for
                    \_ So he had a profit of $290m on his crappy movie?  I
                       felt so robbed that I spent good money seeing it.
                       \_ It's funny how people bitch about wasting their time
                          and money on Star Wars 1. It's not like you never
                          ever felt robbed watching a less-hyped movie.
                          \_ Sure I do.  You want a list of all the shitty
                             movies I've wasted my money on and bitched about?
                             I only mention this one because that's the thread
                             topic.  If I came up with a random movie to bitch
                             about, you'd say I was an idiot and off topic.
                             Tell me the funny part about expressing my
                             opinion about the subject of the thread topic?
                             It's funny how stupid people come to the motd to
                             feel clever but aren't.
                             \_ Anyone who is stupid enough to *pay* to
                                watch a movie has no right to bitch that
                                the movie was bad. You checked your brain
                                at the door when you traded hard earned
                                money for worthless celluloid drivel.
                                \_ You sound like one of those napster idiots.
                                   \_ Why? Because I don't waste my money
                                      on entertainment?
                                      BTW, I never said that one should
                                      pirate IP, I said that hollywoods
                                      IP SUX!
                             \_ Why do people go to theaters anyway? All
                                movies are freely available (even before
                                the release date in most cases) on hotline
                                and irc. The quality isn't too bad in most
                                case. Why would you pay $8 to sit in a
                                dark room with a bunch of insensitive
                                jerks who are talking to each other and
                                yakking on thier cell phones instead of
                                \_ Because spending hours hunting down and
                                   downloading movies so I can watch them on
                                   a dinky monitor or TV is a much bigger waste
                                   of my time than the $8 lost at the movies.
                                   When your time has no value, this is a good
                                   way to go if you don't mind being a thief
                                   and a criminal.
                                watching the same movie in the comfort
                                of your own home?
                                I've heard about this thing called the
                                "theater experience", but the "experience"
                                seems to me to be worth $1 or $2 not $8.
                                \_ Because spending hours hunting down
                                   and downloading movies so I can watch
                                   them on a dinky monitor or TV is a
                                   much bigger waste of my time than the
                                   $8 lost at the movies. When your time
                                   has no value, this is a good way to go
                                   if you don't mind being a thief and a
                                   criminal.
                                   \_ A big screen tv and dolby 5.1 ss
                                      are just as good as the "movies".
                                      And searching/downloading takes
                                      almost 0 time. You just have to
                                      know the right sites.
                                      I don't care about the criminal
                                      part. The founding fathers were
                                      considered criminals by the brits.
                                      TPTB were wrong then, they are
                                      wrong now! Viva la revolution!
                          \_ Yeah. Why do people watch movies in theaters
                             anyway? Its much cheaper and faster to d/l the
                             vobs or asfs from hotline. I watched SW:E1 in
                             asf format 3 days before the theater release
                             in the comfort of my dorm room.
                             \- i bet the person who wrote these two posts
                             were not born in 1977 ... "you dont get it".
                             The reason "we" felt ripped off has nothing to
                             do with wasting $8 ... hell, my Star Wars lunch
                             pail i still have will pay for the price of
                             admission several times over. Hint: the fact that
                             I have a SW lunch pail has more to do with why
                             I feel betrayed. --psb
                             \_ You feel betrayed that GL is pimping his
                                shitty little "epic" for all the $s its
                                worth so that he can maintain his elite
                                lifesytle? Why? After all its his shitty
                                little epic and he can do anything he wants
                                with it. If you thing that it was good or
                                that it was some kind of story for the ages
                                you are a bigger idiot than tom.
                                (I have read Campbell, so I know what
                                qualifies as an "epic" and despite what
                                Campbell may have said to Bill Moyers,
                                SW is a POS. Star Trek is a *much better*
                                and a much more realisitc epic)
                                \_ Star Trek is realistic?  Are you totally
                                   stupid or just trolling again?
                                   \_ Star Trek is more realistic than
                                      SW. I never said that ST is realistic.
                                        \_ That's like saying the humpty dumpty
                                           story is more realistic than the
                                           wizard of oz.  zero is not greater
                                           than zero.  I find the gritty ugly
                                           future of SW more realistic than the
                                           politically correct ST junk.  The
                                           science in both is pure fantasy.  In
                                           what way is ST more realistic?
                                           \_ The gritty ugly future of SW?
                                              Its in the past you idiot.
                                              "Long, Long, Ago, In a Galaxy
                                               Far, Far, Away..."
                                              Have you even seen SW?
                                              And what's so gritty and ugly?
                                              All of the major cities GL
                                              has shown (the space port
                                              is not a major city) are
                                              neat and clean, manned by
                                              a work force of non-sentient
                                              slave bots.
                                              ST is more realistic in that
                                              it is a story of ordinary
                                              people (not super-human jedi)
                                              who perform extraordinary
                                              acts in the line of duty.
                                              (I'm talking about TOS here
                                              not TNG or any of that other
                                              bs that pretends to be ST)
                                \_ no one is a bigger idiot than tom.
                                  \_ actually, tom is an idiot, a big one.
                                    \_ but you two are extremely clever!  -tom
                                        \_ your real fans wouldn't participate
                                           in such mindless name calling, tom.
                                           we're still waiting to hear your
                                           "reasonable definition" of liberal.
                                           \_ The word was "leftist", and I
                                              don't argue politics with
                                              anonymous cowards.  -tom
                                              \_ True.  You just delete
                                                 anything that doesn't fit your
                                                 agenda.  Also, no one wanted
                                                 to debate with you.  A simple
                                                 definition isn't a request.
                                                 I'm not surprised you can't
                                                 manage to define yourself out
                                                 of the leftist category.  It
                                                 would be laughable.  I don't
                                                 see why you refuse to provide
                                                 a "reasonable definition" of
                                                 an English word.
                                \_ No, I didn't feel betrayed at all. And I
                                   watched SW in the theaters. Back in 1977.
                                   It's not like Ep. 1 was the first SW that
                                   disappointed (hello Ep. 6). It's like
                                   Star Trek. Some good, one or two great,
                                   rest monkey doo-doo.
                                   \_ Only watch even numbered ST movies.
                                      No such rule can be given for SW.
                                      They all suck.
                                   \_ The teddy bear episode should have been
                                      a big tip off that the next film was
                                      going to be pure crap.  Lesson learned.
                                      I will not be seeing the next one.
                                      \_ yeah really. the epic backstory
                                         was a big hoax. and even if there
                                         ever was a master plan, it was
                                         fucked right from the start when
                                         they destroyed the death star. the
                                         empire strikes back is the only
                                         saving grace of the series, the
                                         only one with some adult themes.
                                         but haven't you learned by now?
                                         kid stuff is what sells, look at
                                         pokemon and boy bands. so lucas
                                         went for the money and with ROTJ
                                         steered starwars firmly into the
                                         realm of kiddie flicks.
                                         \_ Which is why ST is better than
                                            SW. Star Trek dealt with adult
                                            themes in all of TOS and the
                                            first six movies.
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