3/8     I am looking for a Calendar Server that will work with (open)LDAP
        as well as interacting with microsoft outlook clients (so that a
        person using outlook can see the schedules of others in their group).
        However, i don't want to use Exchange.  Is there something out there
        that does all this well? what?
        \_ Have you looked at MS Project? It might do this.
        \_ Might want to check out CorporateTime. Has a client for
           practically everything and an Outlook Connector for those
           who want to use Outlook to access. See:
            http://www.steltor.com
            \_ the outlook connector sucks if you try to use it for
               email..
                \_ everything about outlook sucks if you try to use it for
                   email
        \_ iPlanet.
                \_ He said "well".
                   \_ name something better.
                        \_ I didn't say there was better or worse.  I was
                           saying it doesn't do it "well" as requested.  You
                           can use 'cat' to write a novel, but it doesn't do
                           it "well".  Emacs or vi are the "upgrade" from using
                           cat to write a novel.  iPlanet is still at the cat
                           stage.  I shouldn't have to spell this out to a Cal
                           student.  Have things continued to decline over the
                           years?  Maybe too many "American Cultures" garbage
                           requirements getting in the way of learning and
                           thought.
                           \_ When cat was the only game in town, you had
                              to use cat. The only thing you've got now is
                              cat and you have to write a novel, WTF are you
                              going to do?!? I know, you're just not going
                              to write the novel, because your tools suck.
                              Yeah, that's it. iPlanet is the only game in
                              town, it may be cat, but its all you've got.
                              Suggest an alternative that works better or
                              STFU.
                                \_ Exchange works better.  Yes, I've used both
                                   extensively.  Have you?  "STFU" yourself if
                                   you haven't.  The original poster is just in
                                   an anti-MS whine.  There's a reason iPlanet
                                   \_ Exchange is shit. Total and complete shit.
                                      M$ couldn't code its way out of a paper bag
                                      to save its life. I've used iPlanet and
                                      exchange before. They both SUCK, but if
                                      iPlanet is cat, then exchange is cave
                                      painting.
                                      They *tried* to get it running at Cisco,
                                      with help from *M$* and it took months and
                                      still wouldn't work right. It was finally
                                      shelved. Many of us felt that management
                                      was total f'ed up to even try a shitty M$
                                      product. It was a total waste of time and
                                      money.
                                   is free.  You're getting what you paid for.
                                   \_ My original post was deleted, but heres
                                      the basic summary: Exchange is shit, its
                                      worse than shit. Cisco management wasted
                                      lots of $s and got M$ to help and still
                                      scrapped Exchange because it SUX! We told
                                      them it SUX but they didn't believe us.
                                        \_ Yes, Exchange sucks.  It's still
                                           better than iplanet.  Exchange is
                                           like ED.  iplanet is like cat.
                                           \_ If iPlanet == cat, then Exchange
                                              is akin to gorillas beating each
                                              other with sticks. Several million
                                              evolution is required for Exchange
                                               to stop sucking.