2/13    Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon nominated for best picture and best
        foreign picture.  Why do I have a feeling that it will get snubbed
        once again on oscar night?  Joining Farewell, My Concubine, the wedding
        banquet, Eat Drink Man, Woman, and a long list of other chinese
        films.
        \_ it'll get snubbed because it's not the best picture, any more than
           "Die Hard" would be.
           \_ i second that sentiment.
              \_ CTHD blew. The only thing it was really good for was special
                 effects.  It's only that the American public has never seen
                 real chinese kung fu dramas/movies/series that people here
                 liked it.  The fact that EB is next on this list for best
                 picture really just reflects how poor a year it was for movies.
                 Cast Away might win just from novelty. But then again, CTHD has
                 more novelty for the Academy, so maybe not.
                 \_ I dunno. I've seen plenty of Chinese Martial Arts movies
                    and I thought CTHD was pretty damn good.
                    \_ I especially like the scene where Chow Yun Fat and that
                       woman were swinging on tree tops and fighting.  It's so
                       romantic.
                        \_ ya i like it when she stabs that other chump in the
                           cave, he looks at the wound, and then fucks her.
                                \_ well you know, it's well established that
                                   such stabbing is irresistably erotic; c.f.
                                   the Highlander Effect.
                           \_ What movie are you talking about!!?
                              \_ That scene _was_ in CTHD
           \_ But it is better than the piece of junk Gladiator.
                \_ Don't bet on Gladiator.  Bet on Erin Brokovich.
                   \_ I wouldn't mind, but I doubt Erin Brokovish is
                      going to win.
              \_ well gladiator was more exciting and wasn't as cheesy.
                 \_ Gladiator was a total knock off of the "Fall of the
                    Roman Empire".  Exactly the same characters and
                    storyline.
                    \_ yes but that's irrelevant.
                 \_ The only exciting part was the fight against the
                    chariot archers.  Not one scene comes close to
                    the fight in Spartacus between Spartacus and the
                    black warrior in terms of realism, unpredictability,
                    desperation and tension.
                 \_ yeah, and Gladiator was much more homoerotic than
                    Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
        \_ Well, if they replaced Chow Yun Fat with Mel Gibson or some
           other white leading man, CTHD would be a lock. -Hoyt
                \_ if it were a white leading man, yi yi wouldn't have
                waited until the end of the movie to bare her wet chest
                to him. in fact, it would have been a fuckfest from the
                start. yah baby!
           \_ Patriot and Braveheart didn't win (as i recall). I thought
              they were great movies.
              Did castaway get nominated (I'm too lazy to check on yahoo)?
              If it did, I'm predicting a 3rd Oscar for Tom Hanks. (I don't
              like him, but I'm not a liberal hollywood type.)
              \_ Braveheart did win best picture
                 \_ Really? Wow. Okay, I guess I was wrong. Patriot didn't
                    win anything did it?
                    \_ Christ, why should it?  It was a pretty lackluster
                       production.
                       \_ I liked it. I though it was a good movie.
                          But most movies I like don't get nominated for
                          awards.
                    \_ no
        \_ In what language/dialect is the movie filmed?  I watched a
           Cantonese version on (pirated?) DVD but the male voice wasn't Chow
           Yun Fat's.
           \_ mandarin
              \_ cantonese would've been much better.
                 \_ I have this version too.  Its damn annoying to
                   to see CYF and hear some wimpy guy's voice.
        \_ Traffic, Gladiator and Erin Brockavich were all good. Crouch...
           was a surprise but I guess I have to see it first.