2/2     Hey what's with the POP3 server.  My mail client can't log in but
        I can SSH in to use pine?
        \_ soda supports spop and imaps, non-encrypted pop3 and imap4 are
           not supported. If you are using netscape, you can set it up to
           use imaps. I think the same is true for eudora and M$ whatever.
           I don't know of any client that supports spop though.
           \_ I usually create an ssh tunnel and have my mail client to
              establish an imap connection through that.
        \_ hm, my pop3 client doesn't seem to be configured to use any
           encryption, but I don't seem to have any trouble retrieving my mail.
           \_ It appears to have been reenabled.
        \_ so what's the deal with spop?  is it just pop3 over ssl?  Anybody
           know how to configure Outlook Express to use it?  I checked the
           SSL checkbox, but it won't connect.  Am I using the wrong port
           (defaults to 995)?
           \_ I've configured outlook express (and outlook as well) to use
              spop.  If you can't connect, check for odd shit like a dialog
              box placed BEHIND the active window, so it will never be seen,
              unless you check the task bar.  You should get a "do you want
              to accept this cert." type message once, but otherwise it
              should Do The Right Thing.  --sowings
              \_ how did you do this?  more details, please.  I've never even
                 seen any prompt asking about certificates.
                 \_ Tools -> Accounts -> Properties -> Advanced -> "This
                    server requireds a secure connection."  When you check
                    this box, the port changes to 995.  This won't work with
                    soda, though, so if that's what you're talking about....
                        --sowings
           \_ spop is pop3 + ssl. I've never seen a email client that
              handled it correctly. There is a variant of pop3 called
              apop that is similar to spop (its encrypted), but only
              eudora handles it correctly.
              \_ Only your password is encrypted (not the email itself,
                 but then encrypted mail transport when SMTP goes cleartext
                 is a bit silly.