1/30    If you're looking for a vacation on train, I'd recommend Amtrak's
        Coast Starlight.  http://www.AmtrakWest.com/coaststarlight
        I took the Oakland -> Seattle segment and it was great!  The train
        goes through snow-covered forests.  It was really romantic.
        \_ Romantic until it hits some deer or another train or truck or...
           \_ That IS romantic!
           \_ love is fostered under intense situations
              \_ From "Speed"?
        \_ Get a room. Actually, get a sleeper. Bring cigarettes, alcohol,
           and cards and hang out with the smokers after it gets too dark
           to see outside. I do recommend this trip for those who like
           trains. And not just in a "Risky Business" sorta way.
        \_ Why would I vacation on Amtrak?  Ew, yuck, bleah!  Might as well
           go on greyhound....
                \_ train travel is a lot more pleasant than airplane
                   travel.  -tom
                   \_ Not in this country.
                      \_ Absolutely in this country.  It's very slow but
                         there's no comparison in terms of comfort or
                         stress.  -tom
                         \_ Maybe we rode a different Amtrak or have different
                            ideas of comfort.  I'm happy to leave it at that.
                            \_ You are talking to Tom, he's a RIDE BIKE, LINUX
                               SAVE THE WHALES/PLANET type dude. Amish hay
                               rides are 1st Class for him.
                      \_ I took a train from NYC to Boston (and back), and it
                         was a LOT more pleasant than flying.  It was cheaper,
                         more comfortable, and had none of that airport stress.
                         Plus, there were power outlets next to the seats, so
                         I could plug my notebook in.  Connecticut scenery was
                         decent too. -- !tom
                         \_ I took the train from NYC to Boston a few times
                            in the summer.  It was cheaper and more
                            comfortable than flying, but it took a LOT longer.
                            If I could have gotten a $100 round trip ticket
                            like I can between LA and SF, I would. -emin
                            \_ true, but the time saved by flying is a bit less
                               if you account for the time you waste getting
                               to the airport early, getting through airport
                               traffic, etc.
           \_ Seriously, Amtrak sucks.  I was hoping to save some dough going
                going down to LA by train.  After a half-hour with their
                website, I had an itinerary that was 11 hours+ each way and
                cost $50 more than a Southwest ticket.
        \_ HELLO!!! We're in the fast paced information age where the
           destination is more important than the journey. I don't care
           about a stupid train experience, I just want instant gratification
           and that means getting to a place quickly and cheaply. DUMB ASS.
           \_ welcome back kchang!!  we missed you!
                \_ and hello to you, nick tom lila psb immigrant