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2001/1/9-10 [Computer/HW/Laptop] UID:20277 Activity:moderate
1/8     Question for the laptop guru's:
        Which IBM Thinkpad compares to the Tecra 8100?
        How does the equivalent Thinkpad compare to the Tecra 8100 in terms of
        functionality and non-proprietary-ness for hardware?  (ie; Tecra's
        don't have standard hd's).
        Which supports *nix on Intel more readily (less tweaking)?
        Which one has the better bang for the buck?
        Pointers to comparisons would be great.  Thanks in advance.
        \_ There's nothing especially proprietary about Tecra 8100s.  The
           rough equivalent (though better!) from IBM is the Thinkpad T20.
        \_ Tecra's don't have standard HDs?  Huh?  Hard disks in laptops are
           just about the only things that ARE standardized.  Sure, laptop
                                                \_ don't forget SODIMMs
           hard disks are different animals than desktop hard disks, but
           AFAIK, they're pretty standard from one laptop maker to the next.
           What's so weird about the Tecra 8100's HD?
           \_ The Tecra hd's have another little shim/adapter from the hd
              to the laptop.  My 8100 uses a IBM Travelstar DARA-212000,
              but is in sort of a little caddy.  The Tecra 750's also used
              standard drives back then, but also used a little adapter;
              even more annoying, it was attached to a bottom plate that
              was part of the laptop.  Getting an additional drive was a
              co$tly pain.
              \_ Actually, this is pretty common on laptops, it's not a
                 Toshiba specific nuisance.  If you're looking for a
                 replacement drive, you can just use the caddy from the old
                 one.  Also, a lot of laptop hard disk vendors (last I
                 checked, http://xtradisk.com was a good one) will sell you an
                 extra caddy if you really need one.
        \_ IBM {A,X,T}{20,21} recently had a bios upgrade that prevent
           one from running FreeBSD ...
        \_ Recently got Inspiron 3800 fairly cheaply.  Bought the barebones
           machine from Dell, upgraded with components from the net.
           Works ok; running FreeBSD 4.2 (trivial problem with PC Card,
           fixed by recompiling the kernel).  Video well-supported; audio
           isn't supported.  Generally postitive experience.  The biggest
           problem -- the CD-ROM drive is too noisy.  Not enough data to
           report on reliability.
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