12/19   How considerate are you to "neighbors" when you have a decent
        sound system you'd like to enjoy?  Do neighbors knock on your
        door asking you to turn it down or do they retaliate with louder
        music?
        \_ My neighbour (a few years ago) living in the apartment below
           me plays really loud music.  One day, I got fed up, so I jumped
           on his ceiling a few times.  From that day on I get "anonymous"
           racist phone calls which I was able to traced to him.  He also
           made a phone call pretending to be an apartment manager telling
           me that other neighbours were complaining about me.
           \_ When I lived in Berkeley, my neighbors above me blasted
              their stereos and held their own mini-WWF at 3am in the
              morning right before midterms.  I got fed up and made
              anonymous phone calls using a linux box I had which was
              set to go off at 5am in the morning when they were sure
              to be asleep.
              \_ one question: what did your story have to do with your os?
                 \_ okay, fine: my computer called up the asshole
                    upstairs from me.  I just had a little cron job
                    that would do it for me. Nothing to do with linux
                    other than the fact that it carried out the act.
           \_ I've seen a couple worse cases: one guy had an alarm
              clock that would go off early in the morning, bothering
              the renter who was below him. So one day the renter sees
              the guy in the stairwell and beats his face all bloody.
              These were students.
           \_ The thin walls & floors common in berkeley apartments was a
              blessing. I lived on the floor right above the parking garage,
              and one night, I heard glass breaking downstairs. Went
              downstairs and caught a kid breaking into the car next to mine.
              \_ Yeah, and it's about time they elected a FUCKING
                 Republican president.
           \_ Find the phone wiring box, cross out the wires for HIS apt.
           \_ all of the problems would be simpler if people had the FUCKING
              guts to confront their neighbors instead of this faceless
              retaliation shit.
              \_ I had the guts. They retaliated by stomping on the floors
                 calls, I just told him to fuck off.
                 every fucking night.
              \_ Typical of the barbarians living in Berkeley and SF.  I never
                 had to deal with this bullshit once I moved.
              \_ In retrospect, I could have went to his door and ask him
                 to turn down his music, but when I jumped on his ceiling
                 I did not meant it as retaliation but just to let him
                 know that hey, your music is bothering me.  I did not
                 retaliate when he started making anonymous racist phone
                 calls, I just told him to fuck off.  When he continued,
                 I told him I will get the police to put a trace on the
                 phone calls.  After that, he made one more call and then
                 stopped.
                 stopped.  To his credit, he did not play loud music again,
                 at least not when I was around.
                 \_ You should've capped his ass.
        \_ I play music quite loudly. Twice my next door neighbors have asked
           me to turn it down, and I did so. Once when I had a midterm, I
           asked them to turn their music down, and they did. So some of us
           CAN just get along.
           \_ Personally, I think when your music level gets to a point
              it can affect your neighbour, it is quite inconsiderate.
              \_ For people to be so inconsiderate makes me ... makes
                 me ... alMTOST FURIOUS!!!  I want to jump up and down!
                 \_ No, I am serious.  If you want to play your music
                    loud, use a headphone.  Don't impose your music on
                    other people.