12/13   Need to kill a login process, kill -9 has no effect, killing
        the ppid says operation not permitted.  Its state is IEs+. Ideas?
        \_ try strace or truss on the process and see what its doing.
        \_ not really helping.  The process appears to be associated with
           a newmail process running under PPID 1.  Is that possible?
        \_ I guess you need to reboot soda.
        \_ -HUP
           \_ doesn't work.