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2000/12/4-5 [Computer/Networking] UID:19997 Activity:insanely high
12/4    Any horror stories out there about Covad or PacBell DSL
        service? I'm shopping around. -ulysses
        \_ my line at home is via firstworld/slip.net. They use
           covad. My line was installed on time and I've never
           had a problem with it. Its a little pricey but I have
           two static IPs.
                \_ I've been trying to get DSL since mid-April through
              \_ covad's still doing okay.
                   Earthlink; it still doesn't work, the shit is totally
                   fucked up somewhere.  And this is after numerous 1/2
                   hour phone calls to the pac bell provisioning department
                   and a few days off from work.  Needless to say, I'm
                   disappointed at Pac bell's lackadaisical efforts to
                   ensure to customers that the installation is complete
                   and fully operational in a prompt manner.
                   \_ j, stop bitching its your own damn fault for being
                      cheap.
           \_ Are covad and northpoint gonna go bankrupt?
            \_ northpoint got bought by verizon. They're not going to go
               bankrupt any time soon.  But northpoint may go incompetant
               under vericon's (mis)management.
                \_ bzzt.  Verizon canceled the deal and Northpoint is
           It's cheaper and the shared bandwidth issue is a red herring, IMHO.
                   suing.  In the meantime, Northpoint has been downgr!
                   to a sell.
        \_ When PacBell DSL works, it works great. When it doesn't, well,
           let's just say my non-techie sister knows more about DSL than
           some of their tech support. It's only pure luck that you'll end
           up with someone on the line who knows anything more than "Is your
           modem on?" or "Are your cables connected properly?" Oh, and this
           is after waiting at least half an hour on hold.
        \_ Consumer Reports says those they surveyed with Cable Modem had
           a better experience than those with DSL by a 2 to 1 margin.
           It's cheaper and the shared bandwidth issue is a red herring,
           IMHO.
           \_ Cable modem isn't available everywhere (SJ for example).
              Some of us are stuck with DSL. Though the new sprint
              wireless is showing some promise.
           \_ Sure, if you don't want a static IP or a service agreement that
              allows you to run whatever you want.  They literally scan your
              box and if they find ports open, "in the interest of security"
              they shut you down.  AT&T and @Home ... dunno about others.
                \_ Not.  I have @Home, and haven't got any problem with
                   being scanned, nor being shut down for having services
                   with open ports.  I have a static, too.
                   \_ my brother (in berkeley) hasn't had a problem either.
                      He's running a linux box as a nat/firewall/web server
                      (a Cobalt RaQ3) and @home hasn't asked him to shut
                      it down. He was running a Qube2 before that (for
                      almost a year) and had no issues with @home.
                      ----ranga
          \_ does not upstream on cable modems suck?
             \_ Local @Home is limited to 128kbps and they try to smack you
                if you run a server, but when it works (the frequency of
                which depends on which "node" you're at) it's greeeat.  If
                you can get the 2 months free, free installation, and have
                no contract, try it.
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