Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 19768
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11/14   http://www.post-gazette.com/regionstate/19990820compwomen4.asp
        CMU Computer Science: Men outnumber women 10 to 1.  What's
        UCB's male/female CS ratio?
        \_ EECS figures: 83%/17% [accuracy to within +/-1%]
           My guess is L&S CS is similar or slightly higher. -alexf
           \_ i don't believe it.  we need a hand recount.
              \_ We need to admit more women, so engineers will
                 be able to get dates.
                 \_ hear, hear!
                 \_ Yes, and there will be more disk space with less porn
                    in their home directory.
                \_ didn't the article warn the woman to get ready for
                   dorky guys chasing the potential student around?
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Even so, Jennifer Kimura's friends weren't exactly thrilled that the Honolulu teen-ager planned to enroll at one of the nation's leading computer science campuses. That's because Carnegie Mellon is about to achieve what would have seemed out of the question just a few years ago. It plans to enroll a freshman class of computer science majors that is 37 percent female, up from 8 percent in 1995. Department of Education reports women are bringing home a declining share of computer science degrees from colleges across the country. Experts say Carnegie Mellon's changing approach to how it recruits women and how it teaches them about computing could have wide implications, given its standing among computer science programs. Other elite campuses will be watching to see if the school is as good at retaining those women as it has been in attracting them. It has made it harder to fill positions in some of the hottest technical fields. 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