11/10   What did Bush Sr. do during his presidency?
           \_ Not much. He tried to continue the work of RWR to varying
              degrees of success. He was a good man, but not a great
              president. To his credit, he was a good honorable man
              who tried to do what he believed was right for America
              regardless of the personal cost. I think that this can
              be said of perhaps most Presidents in the 20th century
              with the notable exception of Clinton.
              \_ Wow! Suddenly becoming so kind, warm and fuzzy when
                 it comes to Bush Sr.
                 In that case, I would say that Clinton is a good man
                 with kind heart, and a good president, but has
                 personal weaknesses.
                 \_ No. If Clinton just got a "lewinsky" I would go
                    for this. But the problems with national security,
                    the disregard for the rule of law, etc prevents
                    me from saying this.
                    If you read my comments, I think that most Presidents,
                    regardless of thier party affiliation and my opinion
                    of thier policies, had a single goal: The betterment
                    of American and her citizens. Clinton did not. He
                    only cared about Clinton.
        \_ He made the political error of raising taxes at a time it was
           the right thing to do for the country and paid the price.
           \_ It wasn't that he raised taxes, but that he did it after
              "Read my lips..."
           \_ There is never a right time to raise taxes. But it is
              always the right time to lower taxes.
        \_ he defeated the biggest threat to Western Civilization and the
           Free World since the USSR -- Iraq.
           \_ Nah the biggest threat was Milosevic and the Serbian
              nationalist butchers, who are soundly defeated by
              the US under the leadership of President Clinton.
                \_ In what way was Milosevic a threat to the free world and
                   western civilization?
                   \_ At the end of the millenium, the actions of Milosevic
           \_ That was Reagan. It just happened while Bush was president.
                \_ We are talking about Iraq, not USSR.
                      and the Serbian nationalist butchers right at the
                      backyard of Europe throw into doubt that our great
                      Western Civilization has made any progress since the
                      defeat of the nazis and facists 50 years ago.
        \_ Reagan is like Bill Walsh.  Bush Sr is like George Seifert.
           No, I'm not going to compare Clinton to Mariucci.

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