11/9 Ok, looking at a close-up of the disputed Palm Beach ballot, WTF
is the problem?? The "5->" clearly points to one hole.
\_ the problem is you are looking at the ballot knowing that
there is an issue.
\_ Ok, suppose I'm a Palm Beach resident. I go into the booth
not knowing there's any problem, and knowing I want to vote
for Gore. How could I possibly punch "<-4" and not "5->"?
\_ I see Gore is second, so I punch the second hole.
\_ it was set up with the intention of confusing voters
that don't bother reading the ballot. I mean, why the
hell the second major opponent (whether democratic
or republican) be "the third hole?!!!" Most normal
ballots have the two major political forces as the
first two holes. I smell a conspiracy...as pointed
out on television, why would this type of ballot only
exist in a county there the majority of residents
(blacks and jewish) are pro-Gore? It doesn't add up.
\_ A conspiracy? Uhm, yeah. The ballot was created by
Democrats. Approved by Democrats. Published in the
newspapers. What friggin conspiracy? This wasn't
a hidden secret ballot popped up out of nowhere on
the unsuspecting populace. And while you're at it,
please explain how this conspiracy has changed the
results in other places like, oh, say, the exact same
ballot format where Jesse Jackson and "My Dad Stole
1960" Daley voted?
\_ apart from the much publicized "x to the right of
the name," the fact that Gore was the third hole
might also make the ballot illegal since Florida
law dictates that the candidates be listed in the
order of finish in the last gubernatorial race,
and I'm pretty sure the Reform Party didn't finish
second
\_ NO! NO! NO! GO READ THE LAW! Stop getting your
news off the tube! *I* _read_ the law and it does
*not* in any way dictate any such thing! Stop
spreading lies and propoganda! --Nader'04!
\_ Well, nowhere in the Constitution does it say voters have
to have any intelligence to vote. It's their own damn
fault for not reading & understanding the ballot clearly.
\_ Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that
voters should be given illegal ballots.
\_ its not illegal. Forms like that have been
used in the past, and the Democratic Official
for that area approved that ballot.
\_ Gore people are working to prove that it
is illegal. I think that's as much as can
be said on the pro-Gore side. And control
yourself next time, Senor "Prove it, bitch".
\_ That's a much different (and weaker) assertion
than "Florida law says it's illegal." Why
not admit you simply did not speak the truth?
Bitch.
\_ People like you need to sign their names.
Really.
\_ Nah. He just need a good bitch slap.
\_ Some of us (me) actually found the law on the
official Florida website. The idea that this
ballot was in any way illegal is a sham.
\_ Actually, it is technically illegal. By
Florida state law, the Democratic option
was supposed to be placed where Pat
Buchanan's spot was (which wasn't the case).
See S101.151(4) and S101.191(1999)
\_ Go re-read the entire law. This is not
so. Don't pick and choose individual
lines that support a particular
conclusion. The lawyers get paid a lot
more than you to do that already.
\_ It's 95% clear, that is, it was clear to 95% of Gore voters
in Palm Beach.
\_ also, it penalizes only stupid gore supporters. stupid bush
supporters were not given the same dilemma.
\_ There was no dilemma, only people too stupid to vote.
\_ But they are able to vote. Some of them must support Bush.
Those ones didn't have to be smart enough to read directions.
Besides, with a margin of 0.01% or so, the too-stupid-too-vote
probably make the difference.
\_ You really want the "too-stupid-too-vote" people deciding
who the President is? Honestly, if this was the exact same
situation except the names were reversed would you be saying
the vote in Hicktown, USA should get another chance bcause
Bubba was still hungover from his moonshine binge? No,
you probably wouldn't. Don't let your political bias color
your decision making process. --Nader'04! |
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