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2000/11/9 [Politics/Domestic/President, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:19680 Activity:nil
11/8    Was President Lincoln a Democrat or Republican?
        \_ President Lincoln founded the Republican party.
                             \_ This is technically incorrect.
                                Lincoln was the first republican
                                presidential candidate, but the
                                party was founded by someone else.
                                \_ That's right.  See
                                   http://www.rnc.org/2000/gophistory
           \_ Why did all the southern states vote Republican when
              Lincoln trashed them up so badly?
              \_The Southern States have traditionally always voted
              Democratic until recently. The Southern Democratic states
              have always been the traditional bastion of Democratic
              conservatism, and it's also traditionally been the place
              of getting voting blocks. However, the new Democratic party
              has become, in essence, too liberal. The result is the slow
              and eventual decay of the Democratic party to be replaced
              by the Republican party. In fact, even though they were until
              recentely Democratic, they were at heart conservative socially.
              The South has just recentely shown its true colors.
              \_ The South switched after LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act
                 of 1965. White Southerners abandoned the Democratic Party
                 in droves after that, just as LBJ anticipated they would.
              \_ The south and the north have really changed
                 from the civil war days. Back then northerners
                 cared about liberty and freedom. Now they
                 just want to turn America into a big welfare
                 state like europe.
        \_ Back then, Republican party was the more liberal party.
           \_ Back then, the concept of "liberal" and "conservative" are
           quite different from modern concepts. You have to remember that
           in those days America was mainly agrarian. The Republican party
           was the party of Industry and Commerce, while the Democratic party
           was for the agrarian farmer (both big and small). In a sense, the
           two parties have merely evolved with the times. You can see why
           Republicans supported abolishing slavery while the Democratic party
           for the most part didn't. Agrarian economies require large forces
           of manual labor, and the system in place at the time was slavery.
           By abolishing slavery the south was afraid it would destory their
           socio-economic system (which actualleally didn't).
           \_ That's why the Southern economies are booming and vibrant,
              especially when compared to their wealth then.
              \_ Texas and Florida have strong economies. Most of the other
                 states don't have enough people to need a industrial economy.
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