10/30   What's up with deleting the anti-Epicentric comments?  Were they too
        accurate and painful?  Don't hide your head and your career in the
        sand.
        \_ No, they were neither accurate nor painful.  Besides, you're
           the anonymous one, so who's hiding whose head and career?  I
           encourage you and anyone else to check out the website and
           the job posting to check out the facts.  Thanks.  --peterl
           \_ say hi to luis for me, if he's still there. i emailed
              you about that, but you didn't reply, peterl.  --chris
           \_ Yeah, I made it all up.  And not wanting to get sued by anyone
              is certainly less important than 'proving' anything by signing
              by name.  Let us all know when they don't IPO again and finally
              go under.  Oh btw, *very* basic questions: how many rounds of
              funding do they have, how much was the last round and how much
              is left?  If you don't know that stuff, you know nothing and
              no matter what you think of my anonymity, your naive would
              certainly be proven.  And as far as my career goes, I was
              already earning $25k more than their 'offer' with 3x the stock
              as a percentage of company.  Currently $50k more than their
              offer with similar options ratio.  I know of others doing better
              but I've got nothing to be ashamed of.  Might have something to
              do with all those *questions* I ask which you won't.
              \_  So, what part of "go to our website" don't you understand?
                  You can find out about our funding, our support, etc, etc.
                  It's simply much faster for me to point out the source
                  of the information rather than answer individual questions,
                  but if you must know I've worked there for 14 months, so
                  I do *actually* know what's going on.  Speaking of getting
                  sued, I don't think you have to worry about breaking your
                  NDA because nothing you said is proprietary, or correct,
                  frankly.  Well, I guess the only thing you'd have to
                  worry about is slander ;)  I'd *love* to discuss detailed
                  financial information with you, but that would be a
                  breach of *my* NDA.  However, anyone who wants to know
                  the truth should come to our website, and sign-up for
                  an interview so you can talk to us. --peterl
                  \_ So you mean the VP *lied* to me in the interview about
                     their future IPO plans?  Ok, that makes me feel really
                     great about working there.  Glad they didn't make an
                     offer worth considering.  Greed might have overcome my
                     better sense.  And not being there in the interview with
                     your VP of Engineering, you have no clue about whether
                     or not what I said happened in the interview is true or
                     not.  Head in sand, boy.  Head in sand.
                  \_ The truth: 75 customers, 180 employees.  I hope you're
                     getting at least $150k from each customer (and that's
                     only going to get you to breakeven!)  $35million in
                     funding will only last you another year.  But then
                     again that's the average length of Silicon Valley jobs
                     these days.
                     \_ let someone see and decide for themself.  Every
                        job is a calculated risk that one takes.  Thanks
                        for the input, maybe Epicentric is a risk, but
                        to each his own. --chris (who doesn't work at
                        Epicentric for her own reasons but has nothing
                        against them)
                        \_ Yeah, let's not warn anyone or god forbid encourage
                           the stupid geeks to ask the right questions.  Let's
                           just all shutup and get chris another hiring bonus.
                           Let's all just sign up and find out for ourselves
                           the hard way.  Way to go chris!  Teach those young
                           geeks the best way to improve their futures!
                           Walking blind and stupid into a company you know
                           nothing about isn't a calculated risk.  You don't
                           have the information to calculate anything.  That's
                           not a risk.  It's just plain old stupid.
        \_ websites are just spin anyway.
                \_ Yep.  Bingo.
                \_ Most are, but luckily many of those are dying.
                   Everything's spin anyway -- politics, news, dreidels,
                   and so on -- and working for a fuckedcompany doesn't
                   even matter if you enjoy yourself and get paid.
                   work != life.  It's a very important aspect of life,
                   but I repeat IT IS NOT YOUR LIFE. Geez, these kids
                   nowadays....
                   \_ The point of working for a startup isn't to get paid.
                      It is about the _chance_ to possibly get a lot of wealth
                      in a very short period of time.  If you just want a job
                      that'll always pay, try McDonald's.  They're doing quite
                      well.