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10/30 Thinkers, no-bullshitters, egalitarians, civil rights enthusiasts,
people opposed to imbalance of power/fascism, and for the environment,
please support the NADER campaign. http://www.votenader.org
If you're too scared to vote for Nader because you think Bush is
worse than Gore (hah!), at least get a friend to vote for Nader
in a state where Gore will win anyway. <DEAD>www.nadertrader.org<DEAD>
\_ Can you please tell me what states these are? I
am considering voting for Nader (or convincing
friends to) but havent found any good polls-by-
state to base my decision on.
\_ The <DEAD>nadertrader.org<DEAD> site has this information.
\_ FYI, California is not a Gore-secure state
\_ Thank God, but I'm still waiting for the
day when CA wakes up and realizes that
liberalism is a failure.
And for sure sign the petition to ask Gore to step down and let
Nader take the lead, http://www.PetitionOnline.com/ydg
great comments there...
\_ listen, troll. there are two kinds of people who talk about
politics on the motd: librtarians and communists. everyone
else gave up along time ago except for trolls. nader is
neither a libertarian nor a communist, therefore you are a troll.
\_ Nader is a socialist, he believes govt can solve problems.
He wants to reform govt by making govt larger... it doesnt make
any sense.
In fact, govt, in its current form (ie. size), IS the problem.
If you are going to vote for a third party, Harry Browne
(Libertarian) is by far the best choice.
\_ Libertarian ideas seem sensible, but the only reason I won't
\_ Nader's campaign is a giant vanity project, he
has no chance of winning, every vote he gets makes
it more likely the Beelzebubba I mean george w bush
will get elected. yeah you can sit around all day
and say how noble and uncompromising nader is, but
the other 2 in the race have spent their lives as
politicians, where you have to compromise, and occasionally
make choices that will be unpopular 20 years later. nader
doesn't have this problem since he has studiously avoided
elected office his entire life, but that doesn't make
him the best man for the job - danh
vote for a libertarian is because the libertarian platform
on the environment is, "Well, if the land that needs protection
is privately owned, then the owners will recognize the value
of not trashing it." I think that's a huge oversimplification
of the issue. What is meant by "value"? Value is often a
comparision of one thing to another for a particular person.
Is a forest worth more to its owner than a billion dollars?
"Lets see, the cost to the rest of the planet is small and
distributed collectively. So I'll take the billion dollars."
-- jeffwong
\_ This position pertains to development of natural resources
on public lands - in other words if they have to
pay a fair price for the land.
\_ What is with the obsession some people have for the
"environment"? Its a bunch of damn trees. get over it.
\_ Actually, Nader is an anti-corporatist, he wants to reduce fascist
control of our lives while protecting our rights and our planet.
On what basis do you claim he wants to increase government?
\_ http://www.greenparty.org/Platform.html You tell me. They are evil
and insane, and Darth Nader is their leader.
\_ Nader would de-privatize America. He wants to disassemble the
greatest economic system in the history of the world.
\_ Greatest economic system??? That's a laugh!
If you want quality of life, and something for future
generations, and a healthy society, this economy fails.
\_ If Nader has admitted
\_ Really? I have a better quality of life than my
parents, and my children (if I have any) will have
a better life than me. Its all thanks to capitalism
and american exceptionalism.
\_ Um, actually, <DEAD>nadertrader.org<DEAD> is the greatest economy
\_how does it follow a consumer advocate would dismantle
an economy? educated consumers increase the efficieny of
the market.
\_ He is not a consumer advocate, he is a weird freakish
man that hates corporations. He doesn't help educate
consumers he simply scares them and threatens companies.
Competition increases the efficiency of the market, not
fear mongering weirdos. If you are thinking about voting
for Nader, you might try the COMMUNIST party instead.
tirade from Nader.
\_ Ironic that he's against fluoride, ay? :)
Protect your precious bodily fluids!!!
\_ that he's a consumer advocate is well known,
provide proof otherwise. same for accusation that
he hates all corporations. educated consumers do
increase the efficiency of the market. don't
spout drivel you can't support.
\_ He's not a consumer advocate. He simply
attacks companies and products he doesn't
like. The free market has created better
safer and more useable products than any
tirade from Nader. Innovation in the high
tech sector (cisco, sun, intel, etc) happened
because innovation generates money in a
free market. Nader would stifle this sort
of innovation.
\_ he campaigns against flouride, for heaven's sake.
The guy's a crackpot. -tom
Furthermore he has called for the breakup
of the banking system and the fortune 500
along with more regulation on small business.
If that doesn't mean he's against corporations
I guess you are just more clued into Naders
propoganda than I am.
\_ it's only up for debate by crackpots.
It's like Mumia's guilt. -tom
Where do you get this notion that educated
consumers increase the efficiency of the
market? DUH, companies trying to make a profit
and increase shareholder wealth increase the
efficiency of the market.
\_ I love how anonymous crackpot cowards
use ad hominem attacks. How do you think
"conventional wisdom" got that way?
What do dentists have to gain from
water flouridation? It's not like it's
some major cash cow for industry; in
fact it reduces dentist's revenues by
reducing tooth decay problems, especially
in poor neighberhoods. Do a web search
on "water flouridation", it's obvious
that the only people negative on it are
crackpots. Like Nader. Sign your name,
coward. -tom
\_ My dentist said fluoride is very harmful in
the water and only effective for children
\_ it's called "accountability" -tom
your ignorance is a fact, not an attack.
but to the flouridation argument; you
miss the point. the issue is not
whether flouridation helps teeth, it's
how much flouride children get in
their systems from all sources. but
you still haven't offered a reasoned
dismal of nader yet. go ahead,
continue to ignore the topic if you
like, and hope i forget.
\_ the topic is that he's a crackpot,
and you haven't offered a reasoned
dismal [sic] of that. -tom
of a certain age if taken in a certain way.
\_ is that the best you can do? the effect of
\_ why should I come up with a
"reasoned dismal" of Nader when
you haven't said anything to
support him? -tom
flouride in our water is up for debate.
pick something else.
\_ okay, that is the best you can do.
no doubt you base all your opinions on
conventional wisdom and rely on ad
hominem attacks to distract from
your ignorance. your hallmark, actually.
\_why sign names? it's not verifiable,
and it's only egoistic in a debate.
\_ why should i defend against
unsupported accusations. |
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| www.votenader.org We need your help to make sure Ralph Nader is on the ballot in 2004 in George Bushs home state. We will be profiling some of the activists who join the Texas ballot access drive. Help make sure an alternative to war and occupation is heard in the fall presidential debates. Democracy Failing in Texas Civic Petitioners Blocked from Gathering Signatures for Candidates and Third Parties Washington, DC: The doors on Texas democracy continue to close on Texas voters. Texas, where the former populist revolt began in 1887 that swept through much of the United States, is closing its public spaces to citizens seeking more voices and more choices in 2004. The independent campaign of Ralph Nader and the Libertarian Party campaign are striving for the required tens of thousands of signatures to get on the presidential ballot. But their petitioners are encountering barriers to their signature gathering of registered voters on public property. The closing of public spaces is stifling the voices of political and civic campaigners who cannot afford the expense of the mass media but who can go to the public directly with their minds, hearts and feet. The Woman Director - Jurgen Vsvch Jurgen Vsvch, also know as "Rommel" is going to Austin from California tomorrow (April 28th) to work on the Nader ballot access drive. She will be bringing her bag pipes to Texas and hopes to play them at the Alamo because there was a bag pipe player during the onslaught. She says: "I can't believe I have never worked for Ralph before. She wanted the cover but her father, who was a conservative Republican ripped it up! She could not work on his last campaign because she was working on her first feature length film. This time she had to choose between working on the remake of King Kong in New Zealand or the campaign. Stephen did not vote for Ralph in 2000 but certainly will in 2004. He was not politically ready in 2000 not frustrated enough. His involvement was stirred when he attended a re-screening of "Bob Roberts," a film about a political slime ball played by Tim Robbins. Robbins spoke after the film answering questions from the audience. He encouraged people to get politically active and mentioned that he voted for Ralph in 2000. Stephen began to read up on Ralph and found he supported a lot of his positions and admired his courage. Also, Ralph has spoken to a lot of librarians and is an advocate for libraries. Stephen got involved in the campaign when Ralph asked people during the exploratory campaign whether he should run. Stephen said he should and offered to take a week off between semesters to work for Ralph. Stephen is surprised to be going to Texas, but happy to do it. He will arrive in Texas on Friday the 30th and stay till the 6th, sleeping on a couch in someones home. He will be meeting a Minnesota activist in Houston (who he does not know) and will be working with her. He sees this as an adventure a political adventure in a state he has never visited before. Hes mentioned to a couple of colleagues about his trip and has been criticized by the "Anybody But Bush" crowd, but their opinion does not sway him, nor does their name calling or judgment of him change his views. He is not a politician but someone who supports those are struggling. Saturday, April 24, 2004 Nader Calls for Breast Cancer Prevention Urges Focus on Environmental Causes, Supports Indianapolis Breast Cancer Walk Indianapolis, IN: Independent Presidential Candidate Ralph Nader today expressed support for the Indianapolis Breast Cancer Walk and urged more focused prevention by developing a better understanding of the relationship between the environment and breast cancer. The evidence is pointing, more and more, to environmental factors. Every day our exposed military remains in war-torn Iraq we imperil US security, drain our economy, ignore urgent domestic needs and prevent Iraqi democratic self-rule. We need to announce a withdrawal of our troops, not increase them. Nader Supports Economic, Social and Political Rights for Women Nader Contingent to Support March for Women's Lives Washington, DC: Ralph Nader endorses the full eleven-point agenda for economic, social and political rights of women put forward by the National Organization for Women. The Nader Campaign also announced that it would have a contingent of supporters joining the March for Women's Lives sponsored by the American Civil Liberties Union, Black Women's Health Imperative, Feminist Majority Foundation, NARAL Pro-Choice America, National Latina Institute for Reproductive Health and Planned Parenthood Federation of America, this Sunday, April 25, 2004. Thursday, April 22, 2004 March your way into the weekend! Join Nader supporters in DC, April 24-25, as they rally for justice and equal rights Washington, DC: Saturday, April 24th, IMF/World Bank Protest meet at 11am, 15th & H St, NW. Sunday, April 25th, March for Women's Lives meet at 9:30am, Smithsonian Metro Stop. If you arrive late, ask a volunteer to point you towards the Ralph Nader group. Nader: Oil the Source of Two of Earths Major Problems: Wars for Oil and Climate Change Protect the Environment and the People of Our Planet by Ending Our Addiction to Oil Washington, DC: On Earth Day 2004, Independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader highlighted as two priorities: ending the Iraqi occupation and facing up to the immediate crisis of global climate change. Nader linked the two issues on Earth Day because he sees them as symptomatic of the corporate oil-based, planet destructive behavior of the Bush Administration. Nader has called for the United States to withdraw from Iraq including military, private military contractors, oil industry and other corporations. Nader noted: "The war in Iraq is unleashing widening cycles of violence. The potential for escalation of violence increases every day the US military remains in Iraq. The way to reverse the spiral of violence is for the United States to go back home. Nader Submits for Federal Matching Funds Washington, DC: Nader for President 2004 today filed a threshold submission with the Federal Election Commission showing it has met the requirements for Federal matching funds. The campaign submitted documents demonstrating it had raised more than $5,000 in 23 states. The requirement for matching funds is $5,000 in 20 states in donations of $250 or less. As of the end of March 2004, 91% of the donations received by Nader for President 2004 were under $100. The states included in the campaign's filing are Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, the District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Massachusetts, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, North Carolina, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Texas, Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin. Monday April 19, 2004 Nader: US Should Withdraw From Iraq US Should Underwrite an Appropriate International Peacekeeping Force, Encourage Iraqi Self Rule and Continue Humanitarian Aid to Rebuild Iraq Washington, DC: Today, Independent Presidential candidate Ralph Nader put forward a three-step approach to rapidly remove US military forces, civilian military contractors and US corporate interests from Iraq. Nader made his statement amid calls by President Bush and Senator Kerry to "stay the course" despite increasing violence against US soldiers and US military contractors. US presence serves as fuel for the insurrection, kidnapping, terrorism and anarchy. Since the occupation is increasingly turning mainstream Iraqis against the US; Development of an appropriate international peace-keeping force: Under the auspices of the United Nations an international peace keeping force, from neutral nations with such experience and from Islamic countries, should be assembled immediately to replace all US troops and civilian military contractors doing many jobs the Army used to do more efficiently. The US will have to underwrite a significant portion of this less expensive short-term peacekeeping force since it was George W. Support Iraqi self rule and free and fair elections: Free and fair elections should be held as soon as possible under international supervision so democratic self-ru... |
| www.greenparty.org/Platform.html It reflects the majority views of the G/GPUSA membership. G/GPUSA's national officers, spokespeople, and National Committee are expected to act in a manner consistent with the policy framework set by this platform. In keeping with G/GPUSA's structure of "democratic decentralism" where accountability is bottom-up, not top-down, the platform is not binding on the state and local affiliates of the Greens/Green Party USA. This platform, therefore, does not necessarily reflect in every respect the views of Green Party candidates at any level, including Ralph Nader and Winona LaDuke, Green Party candidates for President and Vice-President in 2000. The Greens/Green Party USA is the original Green Party organization in the USA. It carries forward the radical vision of the early Greens based on grassroots political and economic democracy, nonviolence, social justice, and ecological sustainability. Formed as the Committees of Correspondence in 1984, the annual Green Congress changed the name to Green Committees of Correspondence in 1989 and to The Greens/Green Party USA in 1991. G/GPUSA is a membership organization of individual members who participate in affiliated local and state organizations and support the organization with dues scaled to their ability to pay. G/GPUSA is structured as a confederation of local and state affiliates, with 40 local organizations and 19 state organizations, including 15 state Green Parties, affiliated at the time of the May 2000 Green Congress in Chicago. Green politics is an ecological approach to politics that links social and ecological problems. Ecology studies the relationships among organisms and their environment. Political ecology brings human institutions and ideologies into this holistic perspective. We find that the same institutions and ideas that cause the exploitation and oppression of humans also cause the degradation and destruction of the environment. Both are rooted in a hierarchical, exploitative, and alienated social system that systematically produces human oppression and ecological destruction. For the Greens, therefore, the fights against racism, sexism, class exploitation, bureaucratic domination, war, and all other forms of social domination and violence are central to the movement for an ecologically sustainable society. In order to harmonize society with nature, we must harmonize human with human. The Greens carry forward the traditional values of the Left: freedom, equality, and solidarity. We want to create a truly democratic society without class exploitation or social domination. But Greens expand this notion of a classless, nonhierarchical society that is harmonized with itself to include an ecological society that is harmonized with nature as well. To the social movements, the Greens say that in order for humanity to progress toward a democratic society, we must resolve the ecological crisis so that people are still around to enjoy democracy. To the environmental movements, the Greens say that in order to have an ecological society, we must have a democratic society so that people have the power to choose ecological sustainability. To choose ecological sustainability, we must have the power of democracy. The following platform planks are the immediate policy goals we support to move us toward an ecological democracy. An Economic Bill of Rights * Universal Social Security: Taxable Basic Income Grants for all, structured into the progressive income tax, that guarantee an adequate income sufficient to maintain a modest standard of living. Full employment through community-based public works and community service jobs programs, federally financed and community controlled. Paid by the government out of progressive taxes so that social productivity gains are shared equitably. Democratic community control of publicly funded housing programs. Create a single-chamber US Congress, elected by a system of mixed-member proportional representation that combines district representatives elected by preference voting and party representatives seated in proportion to each party's vote. Public financing of parties through matching funds for party dues and small donations up to $300 a year. Use federal investments, purchasing, mandates, and incentives to: + Phase out most chlorinated and other synthetic petrochemicals and phase in natural, biodegradable substitutes. Use federal investments, purchasing, mandates, and incentives to: + Shut down nuclear power plants. Reform ERISA, labor laws, and ESOP tax provisions to enable workers to democratically control their assets. Mandate that workers and the community have the first option to buy on preferential terms in cases of plant closures, the sale or merger of significant assets, or the revocation of corporate charters. Financial and technical incentives and assistance for voluntary conversion of other privately-owned banks into publicly-owned community banks or consumer-owned credit unions. Selection of Federal Reserve officers by our elected representatives, not private bankers. Strengthen the regional development mission of the regional Federal Reserve Banks by directing them to target investments to promote key policy objectives, such as high-wage employment, worker and community ownership, ecological production, and inner city reconstruction. Provide an income tax credit for each dependent to replace and fully compensate for the current exemptions and deductions that benefit to the average taxpayer, such as the home mortgage deduction and medical deductions. Put subsidies in the public budgets where they can be scrutinized, not hidden as tax breaks in complicated tax codes. Revenues from the currency speculation tax should be channeled through international agencies into ecologically sustainable, democratically controlled development in poor countries. Existing national income accounts and indicators such as gross domestic product (GDP) ignore the ecological foundations of the economy and the value of household production. Ecological accounting will identify the true costs of resource depletion and pollution and hence appropriate eco-taxes to internalize full costs. Social accounting will identify the true value of household production and its contribution to the economy and social well-being. Labor time accounting will record and publish the current and dated labor time for goods and services, establishing the average labor time required for each product. These labor time values will serve as shadow prices against which to judge the fairness of actual market prices. Restore full funding for college degree granting programs in state and federal prisons. End domestic political spying by police, military, and intelligence agencies. Treat drug abuse as a health problem, not a criminal problem. Use a simple formula based on student population with adjustments based on need to help bring up school quality and student performance in poor communities. Maintain central support staff for decentrally administered schools. Healthy food at breakfast, lunch, and after school programs. Teacher pay scales comparable to other professionals with similar education and responsibilities. Stop linking administrator and teacher pay and student graduation and retention to standardized test performance. Stop reducing education to answering multiple choice questions. Put teachers back in charge of ongoing, genuine assessment in the classroom. Free, Diverse and Uncensored Media * Infodiversity: An uninformed people is not free. Create a vital, democratic, diverse media system, delinked from corporate profit objectives and able to present a wide range of issues and ideas in their full complexity, free from censorship by government or by private corporate power. Funding to exceed existing support for for-profit media, including lower mailing rates and tax deductions for donors. Support a decentralized, pluralistic system of multiple national networks and local stations, all independently controlled by boards elected by their publics and their workers. Re-appropriate 6 prime-time hours a day of commercial broadcast time on each station for real public service broadcasting: ... |