10/17   So I was sitting in a cafe doing some homework and I overheard
        two people discussing disciplinary action against this 14-year-old
        Cal student who was "hacking" something on a campus library
        computer.  Mentioned was the fact that
                a) no malicious intent was involved, "he just wanted to use his
                   own OS"
                b) the dragonfly OS was installed,
        but I couldn't find any info on what this could mean.  These weren't
        technical people, so they might have mistaken OS for application
        These people were to decide what punishment was fair for this kid,
        and they had no clue as to what actually happened.  Does anybody
        else know any details?  Who is this kid?  What did he actually do?
        \_ He should be expelled and charged damages.
        \_ Why are two non-techincal persons making decision on something
           involving technical issues?
                \_ because Congress has taught them that's the way things
                   are done in this country.
                \_ It isn't a technical issue.  This is an administrative
                   punishment issue.  If you punched someone out on campus,
                   it wouldn't be a boxing/sports issue.  Stop being an
                   elitist nerd.
                   \_ Except that if you don't know what "punching" is but
                      only learn from the book of regulations that "punching"
                      is prohibited and someone committed it, you won't be
                      able to decide on fair puhishment.
                        \_ I've never been a professional boxer.  I know what
                           punching is.  I've never been a professional sys
                           admin but I know what violating system security and
                           replacing the installed software is.  The details of
                           the crime are not important.  What is important is
                           that this moron did something wrong and must have
                           understood in advance that this was a Bad Thing.
                           He had intent.  He didn't accidentally replace the
                           system software.  Time to go back to HS or JC for
                           a few years and learn to grow up and then try a
                           real school again where other students don't have
                           time to sit down at a fucked up terminal this idiot
                           broke.  Try hacking your corporate network, see how
                           *that* gets handled.  Expect to lose your job and
                           get sued for damages far beyond your ability to pay.