9/21    want some greens to cover the open soil in back yard.  any
        recommendation?  want something that's low in maintainence and
        less water.  lawn is too costly.
                \_ OBASTROTURF. (Or rioanjii type of rock garden)
                \-ice plant --psb
                \_ creeping thyme  -tom
                \_ isotoma, aka blue star creeper for more of a "mossy" look.
                   psb's and tom's recommendations are good, too.  plus
                   gazenias work well. --chris
                \_ Green cement.
        \_ I'd add in a japanese garden.  Stones and bamboo and maple.  Once
           you put it in, it's very low maintanance.  Especially if you use
           a lot of stone.  Plus it increases the value of your house.
           \_ If you do bamboo, keep the bamboo in a pot when you plant it.
              Bamboo is a very invasive plant.  I have a Japanese style garden,
              I left out the bamboo. --chris
              \_ bamboo will grow right through a pot.
        \_ Weed
        \_ lawn is too costly?  It's $7/roll of sod.
        \_ AstroTurf(TM)
        \_ cement, then covered with green paint.
           \_ lawncrete!
        \_ thanks!  didn't know there were so many these so called "ground
           cover" thingy..  going to get them this weekend.
           \_ I think the csua needs to hit bottom.