9/18 What makes a bike turn? The horizontal component of lift makes an
airplane turn. Does that mean the horizontal component of weight
shift in a bike makes it turn?
\_ bike tires have a circular profile (when inflated). the strip
of rubber running down the middle of the crown is the farthest
from the center of the wheel (radius), while the edges of the
crown the closest. when you "turn" a bike at speed, you are
really leaning into the turn and riding a contact patch biased
towards one of the edges. the rubber stripes at the inner and
outer edges of this patch travel different distances
(circumferences) for the same revolution, and this causes the turn.
-jwang
\_ Equal and opposite force.
\_ It's the horizontal component of the friction on the front wheel.
Weight points downward, and the horizontal component is zero.
-- yuen
\_ no, the horizontal component of lift on an airplane only makes it
go sideways. horizontal deflection of air from the tail only
is what makes it yaw (turn).
\_ WRONG. link:www.gleim.com/Aviation/howtheyfly.html
\_ quite simply, that page is confusing at best, and
technically wrong at worst. You can turn a plane without
banking it (its called a 'slipping turn'?). The rudder
controls the 'turning' part, the yaw, which is even
mentioned on that page. that Gleim page is more of
an instructional one that tries to simplify things.
\_ Bunch of dumb asses! You turn the steering wheel, so it turns!
\_ Haven't you guys ever seen the experiment where you hold
a spinning bicycle tire in your hand and try to turn
it along an axis perpendicular to the one about which
it is spinning? I can't really explain it, but I
believe this is related to why a bike turns if you
lean over. If the bike was moving, but the wheels
were not spinning (for example if you were sliding on
ice), then you would fall over instead of turn if you
lean. It's conservation of angular momentum or
something.
lean. It's conservation of angular momentum. When
you lean, you change the angular momentum vector. To
conserve angular momentum, the bike changes direction. |