9/8 I'm using AT&T's @Home cable modem service, two computers running
win98. If I buy a cheap switch like the one below, will I be able
to share a single IP for both machines without setting up a linux
box for ipmasquerading (ie, will the switch do NAT for me?)
http://www.onvia.com/usa/products/index.cfm?Task=ViewProduct&IdCatalog=196051
\_ Before you spend money on hardware and time on nat configs and such
why not just get a second real IP from @home and hook three wires to
a cheap 10mb hub? Cost is $5/month, it's a real IP, no configs,
don't need first machine on to get second on the net, etc, etc.
It would be "just like having a real network!". Hassle free, works
for me. If you're employed you can probably get work to pay for it.
All this home nat stuff is cute but it isn't a generally useful
skill for the real world.
\_ This is option #2 below, for completeness.
\_ Sorry, I was in a hurry and forgot to state that I was
restating the #2 option below as a "best choice" for anyone
with $5/month to spare. But, yes, that was my intention.
\_ I'm in the "real world" and we use IP Masquerading on a Linux
box. It's cheaper than having to purchase a 15 IP pack and also
acts as a firewall because internal IP's are not exposed. We
don't have a switch, only hubs, so if we didn't do this there
would be no way to secure the network.
\_ one computer would have to act as the gateway and needs two NICs,
(an internal network, and an external network) the second one
would use a reserved IP number, and be on the internal network.
\_ NO! If you get a switch that has IP Masq support, it'll do this
for you...
\_ 1) A switch (including that one) will NOT work by itself.
\_ WRONG. Certain switches have firmware support for this sort
of thing.
\_ it will if you have two IP's, nimrod.
\_ Please to be recognizing the phrase "by itself", and
then pleasantly looking at number 2 below, and then
kindly being less insulting next time.
Win98SE,
Win2K Professional and Server (but not Win98) have this thing
called "Internet Connection Sharing" (ICS). You need one computer
running ICS. This computer will have two network adapters (any
two will do). You plug one into the cable modem; the other one
is connected to the other computer with a crossover cable.
This second computer has "Obtain IP address automatically."
Now you can share the connection as long as the first computer is
on.
2) A lot of cable places have a feature where they can give
you more than 1 IP address. In this case you buy the hub,
connect both computers to the hub, and connect the modem to
the hub. Both computers have "Obtain IP address automatically."
3) Run Linux IP masquerading. Same hardware setup as 1).
4) If you're just running Win98 and don't want a 3rd computer
to run Linux, download WinRoute Lite and use the same hardware
setup as 1).
* IP masquerading, ICS, and WinRoute are all NAT programs.
\_ I bought the Umax Ugate-3000 router/hub. NAT-based and works
like a charm, including web-surfing, games, ICQ, everything. And
saves from not always having to have one computer on to share
the connection.
\_ How much $$$?
\_ Anyone tried the Linksys DSL/Cable router (either 1-port or w/
the 4-port integrated switch)?
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