7/20 Do any of you soda sysadmins use SNMP-based network management
software, like HP Network Node Manager? It seems to me like
these things are too huge and too general for the network
engineers they'd be marketed toward.
\_ what do you mean by manage? monitor, configure, map, or all?
\_ conceivably all, but mainly monitor > map > configure
\_ My opinion of them was they are big and bloated and dont really
monitor what I want monitored. They're a nice product for MIS
morons who have lots more money than clue, and want to have
pretty maps and whatnot to give woodies to the pointy hairs.
\-some of these products are ok, but in some cases
"crackerware" [nmap] or hacker tools [tcpdump] are better.
cetainly these tools are better at producing "pretty pictures"
for the MIS crowd. It is kind of sad that these add real $$$
to yoru resume. I would suggest not hiring people who only know
vendor tools and not fundamental concepts [Someone who claims
to know Tivoli but doenst know what the tcp handshake is.
However I suspect more people who use say MRTG would know
what the tcp handshake was] and i would suggest avoiding
wokring for people who only care if you know Sunnet manager
of the HP openview [or whatever it is called] and it doenst
make and impression when you say "i write my own monitoring
tools". However, some of these jobs might pay well. --psb
\_ What makes namp crackerware but tcpdump a tool? I use
\_ What makes nmap crackerware but tcpdump a tool? I use
both and not for cracking.
\-i'm not dissing nmap. i use it too. but come on.--psb |
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