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2000/7/16-17 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:18689 Activity:high
7/16    Back from Microsoft PDC in Orlando.  I feel so dirty.  Giant
        hype machine; .Net strategy an entirely unimplemented joke.  C#
        combines the worst parts of C++ and Java; MS showing definite signs
        of embracing VB as their primary development language.  Thousands
        of clueless and lazy ("fear change!") developers.  Don't let this
        happen to you.
        \_ wtf is C#?  Can't find anything on the web about it.
          \_ MS's answer to Java.  Has a runtime environment, looks like C,
             no direct mem access (not sure about the last one).
             \_ it uses the "unsafe" keyword to run pointer arithmetic code.
                C# adds a bunch of unwieldy features and disables the strengths
                of Java, while still using a virtual machine.
          \_ Funny thing is they're calling it C-sharp (as opposed to D-flat?)
             instead of C-hash or C-pound.
             \_ Or B-double-sharp.
        \_ So what's the story or non-story on the .Net thing?
           \_
           \_ it uses VMs to run binaries compiled from a variety of languages
             and it's "platform independent," meaning in MS case that it will
             run on any MS platform.  COM+ is dead.  Note that none of this
             actually works yet.  MS projects library inclusion by 2002 or 2003
             so start buying those books NOW so you'll be ready, slave!
                \_ Fuck that.  I'm not MS slave.  I was just curious what the
                   Evil Empire was doing lately.  Anyway, I don't see how
                   compiling C and running it on a MS/VM and compiling C++ and
                   running it on a MS/VM is any different than just compiling
                   and running directly on the OS.  What's the VM for if it's
                   all MS underneath anyway?
        \_ the most awful thing about this is that MS claims this is the
           "innovation" the Justice Department is trying to stop.  So fellow
           Sodans unite; apparently all "innovation" is nowadays is copying a
           bunch of other technologies, renaming them, then making a bunch of
           PR announcements before any code is written.  I'm thinking we could
           do that easily.  We must code PhilOS.  Or at least write the PR for
           it.
            \_ I ll help if anyone is serious. -- ilyas
                \_ Damn dude... it's the stars!  Of course this isn't serious.
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